2A4M discussion cuz of the guy mentioning 2A4M to be on american tt

because no one care about canadian tanks
so no one do research

that seems… odd, almost like a waste of time if it wasnt at least a little bit of composite to break shape charge jets up or to weaken a dart

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the only info i could find

looks like it was made for composite inserts then, makes a lot of sense as modularity™ has been the fashion for militaries for decades at this point, instead of just making something good for the one thing it will face.

it is which is why im a bit confuse it being empty space

Likley a lack of research into what it actually was, or so that a premium equal can be sold with the composite inserts at a later date

there is no way to attach the compsoite armor into the inside of the cheek the insert is smaller than the inside and the latch when locked cant even push the armor properly considering the “locking” mechanism. appears to be for maintenance reasons and to get crew’s shit in there. if you think this is wrong then feel free to explain where im wrong.
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With structure like that the composite armor would probably split come a hit.

you should look at how the 2a5 2a6 and any other leopard variant that have this wedge composite then

thats mostly the point of the composite armor, they reshape themselves after getting hit which is why they can tank multiple shot
the 2a7v wedge have similar structure if not the same exact layout

may be why it was designed to be easily replaced, its better to have an additional sacrificial layer than rely on the dated main armour of the 2a4

ok show me and lets take a look.

when they are stable and have proper support they are able to reshape to some extent however with improper support the composites can split, not only are you not getting the armor out after that it will trash the angles of the sheets.

youre not going to easily replace a middle cracked composite layout especially when the insert is shaped like that.


the wedge, called arrow head armor
How it works is any kinetic projectile that is not long enough to bridge the gap between the screen itself and the actual armour, ends up getting trapped in the space and impacts with a slight sideways momentum severely decreasing its armour penetration.

yup you wont be pushing those things into the 2A4M’s cheeks through the insert . thank you for showing that. the attachment system also does not exist in the 2a4m as you can clearly see it yourself

im convince that you are somehow ??? so like yeah im not gonna waste time with you

as you can see the only way these can be added into the cheeks are from the back. with the locking mechanism it would literally be impossible to be put through from the side, apart from the fact that they cant even fit through the insert. not only that but as you can see in the 2a4m’s images the attachment system for this armor does not exist (because you wouldnt be able to use it through the latch). this is not compatible with the 2a4m’s wedges. if you have a different belief, please reason.

yk that there are different design right
they all generally share the same idea

yes it seems like they didnt bother because there is no attachment mechanism for the composite and it cant be inserted through the latch. maintenance ability and space for crew items is also very important.
it is possible that they considered those cheeks to be strong enough and decided to go for something else.

i honestly cant argue further because while arguing i cannot actually find any other information other than these articles

quote “In addition, only small areas of slat armour were added, in contrast with the fully caged 2A6M CANs. The protection of the Leopard 2A4M CAN has been further augmented with the addition of appliqué armour resembling that found on the most recent Leopard 2A7+ variant, but modified to fit the turret configuration of the 2A4.”
and this other image https://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2074/leopard_2a6_armor.jpg2.jpg
there isnt much info about 2a4m or 2a6m because they probably arent interesting

only possible with a differently modelled wedge with attachment for the armor. if we can find images on it we could maybe argue for similar armor to be added. i will also try to look for it.

when arguing with u i honestly thought u were one of “those guys” but i was wrong so yeah mb on that
ig no one is interesting in canadian tanks hence there are basically no info on this thing

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The model of the turrets armour is correct. Whats missing are the turret spall liners however the bug report I made month’s ago has seemingly been ignored.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues

PM me for more info if interested.

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