Gaijin has stated many times, that if it was an incomplete prototype then it is allowed in the game. If it was never built at all then it is paper. Going off what Ghost said, the hull was ready, but the gun wasn’t. Hence its cancellation which was due to the war getting worse and either its scrapping or the hull being used in a different role than originally intended as this would be fairly common.
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Added the 15 cm Mi.Gr.44 SAPHEDS-FS 70 kg 344m/s however unknown filler mass and type (tho most likely Amatol, because good, save, cheap and castable, like in the 15 cm I.Gr.)
If anyone knows the Filler mass that would be nice.
Source: H.Dv.119-256 and RH 8/252
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+1 since the hull was made
Very nice compilation of vehicles
Was this round ever fielded? While it is nice there is info like muzzle velocity, I’d like to know whether this number is pure guesstimation or an actual data acquired from actual tests?
I enjoy German-made prototypes of vehicles and ammo like one of the earliest, if not the earliest, HEAT-FS and APFSDS shells (as well as this SAPHEDS-FS, lmfao), but its pressence imho should be defined by the necessity of such ammo and whether it was trialed with respective armament specificaly (e.g. tank gun, howitzer, etc.).
I’m for such projects overall, but oversaturation of the game with one-off pieces of equipment that might not have been tested properly and have only a fraction of real data would make game… well… less historicaly accurate (I know the game is long away from historical accuracy, but I don’t want R2Y2 situation with armament).
I dont know how many reached the frontline. But there are tests and more info about it.
Edit: i actually do now know, at least 3000 for frontline testing.
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Added new info and ammo.
What matters is if all the parts were in working condition. Something like the 44M Tas 75mm version for example has perhaps the highest chance of being added despite not being a complete vehicle due to all parts having been tested and ready to go, only waiting for assembly in a factory that got bombed. But when a whole turret is missing with custom shells that were never made for it, it’s far harder to balance it out and guess work. Just take a look at the Kronshtadt and how ridiculously it performs (granted naval has different rules for ships due to differences in constructions) or even the complete paper Ho-Ri “Production” (1k horsepower engine for a vehicle that was planned to be made in an even more resource-starved country than late WW2 Germany).
Can you add some photo I can’t find what it look like.
There isnt one sadly.
Except the Ho-Ri wasn’t a paper vehicle. It was an incomplete vehicle, the gun was in the testing phase. The chassis was being constructed, so things were being readied. It wasn’t assembled but it was by no means a paper vehicle.
Gaijin be like: copy slop American spg, take it or leave it
As far as I know, only the gun was ever constructed and tested, but the hull has no documentation or proof of actually being made.
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Yes, but… The hulls under construction were not what we see in-game.
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I never said it was. The point is that the Ho-RI nonetheless falls under an incomplete prototype.
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