Yeah, it is. Damage model still fully survives shots from all directions that makes no logical sense. It still blinds you the second the user driving it understands you exist. It still frontal pens things it shouldn’t. It still has better armor than the T-90M at 11.3. Belongs at 12.0 or 12.3 in current state.
Not really comparable to something like a main cannon which has already returned you to the spawn screen once you are hit.
???
Anyways, BMPT has:
Poor mobility
Awful reverse
Poor gun angles, especially in cqc where its tall profile and terrible depression cannot hit the barrels of a point blank enemy (hilarious honestly).
Poor armament (30mm APDS struggles with many opponents, lack of ATGMs, and good ones at that.)
Yeah it has good armor, but the second someone decides to aim at your weakspots (idler wheel, driver port, lfp, below ERA), you are gone. Armor is really its only gimmick, bar the crewless turret which could be addressed.
No? Autocannon BMPT has very fast turret rotation and can instantly start blinding you the moment it knows you exist. Somebody firing back at the BMPT has to aim at precise points on the tank to do damage.
I guess you haven’t played the BR range. Play any MBT that isn’t a russian MBT at the BR. Go ahead. Play NATO. Find out what that 82mm APDS can do frontally to basically every NATO tank.
Listed the same thing twice. It’s forward mobility is not bad enough to care about.
Never seen this happen once. In fact they often get gun depression on me when coming over hills.
Fully untrue. 30mm easily disables most nato tanks frontally. Especially in downtiers. ATGMs do not fail to 1 tap if the BMPT has a brain.
Nah, not how reality works. All of these “weakspots” are just the only places you can penetrate. They NEVER guarantee damage. I have OFTEN hit these “WEAKSPOTS” and did zero damage.
Meanwhile 10.3 and 10.7 getting uptiered to face the BMPT… ☠️
Which is better than being outright shot by main cannon. Don’t get hit. Literally. Except vs BMPT you can actually take a hit because 30mm APDS is not penning many MBTs frontally.
Its forward mobility definitely gimps it when getting to positions compared to something like 2A4 or M1.
I have. And also never had them get gun depression on me cresting a hill.
Barrel/tracks aside, it can pen the uh
M1
Type 90/Type 10
Leclerc/MSC
Atakas are quite dog and often take multiple hits to kill, especially due to them being ATGMs and inherently struggling to hit where you want them to. BMPT only having 4 + 4 significantly cripples its kill potential, and late game when it has used them up, its entirely fodder to an MBT who can aim.
And I have 12 minutes of youtube footage showing how these kill nigh every time. I honestly cannot remember a single time where my mentioned weakspots failed to kill (Below ERA, driver port, LFP, idler wheel) or cripple (turret ring/driver port).
Except I have. Since Feb 19th:
Unfortunately statshark sessions got nuked from Jan 24th to Feb 19th, in that time I exclusively played NATO vehicles as well. Hell, I stock grinded M1 with 0 kills up to basically spaded, and had no problem facing BMPT with M735.
No, it isn’t. I often take immediate disabling damage that eliminates my ability to fire back either because he instantly deleted my barrel or because he destroyed my breach or even because he penetrated an optic hole and killed half my crew.
I’'m sure this is super easy facing the BMPT, a vehicle that can hold W around the map and get 7 kills doing so because it takes infinitely more effort to kill than to play.
Every. Single. One. Of. My. Nato. MBTs. Can. Be. Disabled. Frontally. At. That. BR. Or. Below.
I own most NATO MBTs. Do the math.
What did this user do wrong?
Whereas with a 125mm APFSDS… you would be dead. Wiggle your barrel, works wonders, especially with how they increased barrel health and APDS already struggling with angles.
Very easy actually.
False though, bar the barrel and tracks.
Why is he aiming for the superstructure 3 times.
Too many bmpts also bad, we lost this match lol grb is like mma, bmpt is someone who throws jabs without OHKO power, we need vehicles that excels at different things to do well, some have pillow fist and some has OHKO power (mbts)
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I’m going to say this one more time. If you continue to ignore it, it’s on you. The BMPT has a FASTER REACTION SPEED than most MBTs due to its GOOD TURRET STATS and TINY WEAKSPOTS that OFTEN DO NO DAMAGE when shot. You as the 120mm user have to take MORE TIME TO AIM than the BMPT and he will almost ALWAYS have started blinding you before you can fire. Even if you DO fire, you often DONT disable it even with WELL PLACED SHOTS due to its BROKEN DAMAGE MODEL.
It is not just breaking barrels. The MAJORITY of my NATO MBTs are frontally penetrable somewhere and its not hard to find the holes when you’re spamming 30mm
Too bad its happened plenty of times.
He isn’t. That dart should have did damage. It “oranges” the ammo belt on the first shot. A fuel tank “explodes” but does no damage. The entire vehicle is RIGGED (read: intentionally rigged by gaijin to not take damage)
Position better. You have the mobility and soft factors that allow you to get into better positions. The turret rotation speed is 45 deg/s aced vs 40 deg/s aced on most MBTs, so not that much faster, but noticeable.
False though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMgZuEFPGKM
Here’s some examples, 12 minutes worth, since you clearly struggle to kill them.
M1/Type 90-10/Leclerc are not the majority of NATO MBTs though. Albeit the M1 is quite popular. There’s more MBTs that can’t be penned by 30mm APDS than the ones that can.
Those are external grenade launcher ammo and fuel. They are outside (read: outside the tank seperated by armor and thus do not impact the vehicle’s function). There’s also the superstructure behind that grenade launcher ammo, so it will not penetrate the tank.
ERA is modelled very badly and could do with a rework for sure.
This isn’t real life. War thunder maps are extremely narrow without flank routes. They are more akin to CoD maps.
i can take those EXACT. SAME. SHOTS. and do no damage. It’s rng.
You can get sideshots on enemies on pretty much every map.
I cannot remember a SINGLE time where these weakspots failed.
Yeah if you camp useless positions and don’t push objectives.
Gonna start recording for you
Play between objectives, not on them. Shoot the people trying to capture them.
Looking forward to it.
you repeated what I said. useless positions Also not something that is on every map.
Then why does basically every good player play like this? Do they just win by chance? Or maybe its effective?
A significant majority.
They don’t.
No.
I suggest you go watch how Cavenub for example plays. Pretty much always between 2 capture points.
Tell me one, i’ll show a position.