11.3 Has no SPAA options Helicopters have 8 KM missiles

Hoping my team mates are competent on any nation is a recipe for failure.

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We should play together, I’ll handle the CAS for you and the team lol

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11.3 and 11.7 are the same damn br you’re never going to see a full downtier so might as well put it in

I saw this post, tried to think of a counterpoint, and all I could think of was the Type 81C and then I remembered its 11.0. All I can say is BR doesn’t entirely determine somethings effectiveness as someone with enough skill could beat an F-16 with a P-51, use SPAAs closest to the BR of your choosing. If you’re a Russian main, pull out the Tunguska (or the Pantsir) and so on and so forth. BR is how effective it is with a bad player, skill determines its effectiveness for the person playing it.

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people get offended whenever “skill/skill issue” is mentioned lol Skill based game and decision making, so instead of improving upon their skills and making better choices, they just cry about the simplest things knowing we have the tools for them. Yea, we lacking on better SAMs/SPAAs out there that have yet to be added but at least make what we got work as we wait for them.

Damn I had no idea 11.3 could see 12.7 this is new information to me!

Okay how do I make a Sidam 25 lock a AH-64 at 6KM?

oh no a slightly different F16 whatever shall we do

You’re talking about being able to lock at 13KM versus 10KM do you understand what the range of any SPAA besides the Pantsir is?

This is before discussing the KH-38L with a 20KM range.

I mean I get being offended by “skill issue” but at the end of the day everything comes down to skill. Someone can buy their way to top tier but that doesnt mean they’ll know how to work ARH missiles. Everything takes skill, somethings just take less than others. If you fail to notch a radar missile you have a “skill issue” in that area (or got screwed over by Gaijoobles, either way) We need more vehicles in certain areas (US SPAA 4.0-7.7 gap I’m maintaining apathetic eye contact with you) but until then one must make do with what they have. Make the Duster 11.7 and some player somewhere will get kills with it. I’m going to shut up now as I realized I am going nowhere with this

Those helis are 11.0/11.3…why would you use a Sidam…Italy has KF41 with Spike missiles with a 20km lock range, may take a while to reach but its there and sits at 10.7…Otomatic at 11.3, my best best would be Oto or KF41…lol Really using a 9.7 vs a 11.3 is a bad idea…unless they close, but still a bad idea.

??? what SPAA do you have to use at 10.3???

You will just have to grind them…which is what I did with the UK to get that ADATS…like every other player here, to make line ups. Even the Freccia at 10.3 has spikes to shoot helis with…rely on those for helis till ya reach the other SPAA…

Grind what SPAA?

What SPAA does Italy have that it can use at 10.3 besides the Sidam 25?

Spikes aren’t effective SPAA even when the target is stationary due to Gaijin’s programming for ATGM gravity lol

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Spaa sucks in general, only ruzzia and china get good ones and a lot of them
Look at germany
Flarakx is only for helis and drones, useless against planes
You need ozelot or gepard for planes so bringing 2 spaa lol

Yeah, I wouldn’t say theres a bias towards Russian/Chinese SPAA but rather a large difference in NATO and Eastern combat doctrine. Nevertheless Western SPAA suck ingame

What about snail refusing to accept documents on western manpads?

Tbh I didnt really know about this before. Shame Gaijoobles, shame