Yugoslav Ground Tech Tree (Including Bosnia, Croatia, N. Macedonia, Serbia and Slovenia!)

Okay. But that doesn’t mean we’re not bros between each other, with each now having out own place under the sun.

Jesus Christ what a paragraph
How and in what way is that a political statement??? Yugoslavia had the Tito-Stalin split and yuga basically switched to neutral relationships.
Nowadays it’s mostly how open some or the other countries are to Russia, they’re not puppet states nor are their internal politics centered around which overlord they report to.
Let me reiterate, Yugoslavia and post Yuga countries remain NEUTRAL and while some are more open to the east that doesn’t mean we report to ANY external powers.

The tree would consist of Yuga and post-Yuga era. That’s what the post is about and gives the most out of the region and nations.

Precisely according to the approach even Gaijin use. There would be zero controversy regarding it’s addition and would bring in a lot to the game.
There is also very little that would make it bad politically, Yugoslavia is a country people here remember fondly. It wasn’t the best but it was home to many, a working and developed country that was also very free in it’s ways.

Regarding the copypasta problem, isn’t that what a lot of other smaller trees do already (example: strv 122s)?
This is similar but, as you can see in the tree, with a lot more distinct and deeper modifications and tech ( plus more than plenty of unique stuff). And there’s even more stuff that’s yet to be added to the proposal as well.

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I believe they should stop adding subtrees in current forms since they are in large majority American/USSR or sometimes British vehicles with different paint scheme in some random tech tree. Yugoslavia offers a lot of unique vehicles and tech tree can mostly survive on that alone. BUT it seems that Gaijin just tries to go easy way and is lately disregarding originality (Adding M44 everywhere, Hungarian Subtree, Benelux subtree, Thai subtree). While I believe Yugoslavia can be unique (Even more than in the current suggestions by not needing regular T-55, or regular T-34-85) almost everyone in the community that supports the addition of Yugoslavia also worries about Gaijin deciding to make it like China or current subtrees (which if you check suggestions here and on old forum does offer Uniqueness but it was never truly implemented).
Thank you for understanding. :)

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Not all Post Yugoslav countries are neutral; Montenegro, Croatia and Slovenia are in NATO.

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The rest I can fully understand the dissatisfaction, but Thailand gave Japan some much needed CAS platforms.

But yeah most subtrees and any new tech trees need to either add vehicles/modifications unique to them or if they do use another nations vehicles, add ones not in game (E.g China getting the gladiator MK1 which doesn’t appear in the UK tree).

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Fair enough. Still, they don’t exactly wage wars and are very diplomatically active on both ends of the world

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China getting variants unique only to them fills up a lot…Unique He-111, Gladiator, modified I 15, some indigenous projects etc… as for Thai Subtree, now one of the Japanese ranks is mostly copy paste

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As you say though, I also doubt any large Balkan player base would be against Yugoslav tech tree having Serbian, Slovene, Bosnian and Croatian vehicles.

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I dount anybody would be against that. If you are from a former yugo country your only options are yugo tree or a soviet premium (which in itself is as stupid as it gets.

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Players with a vested interest in yougoslavia can overlook the fact that most vehicles were not original designs. I just want it because it IS Yugo. It is part of my countries history represented in game.

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Some, not most. A modification is still an indigenous design.

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The problem is that it is NOT Yugo if it is Copy Paste… Same as it is not really China in Chinese tech tree

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NDT Vihor meme

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The Patria AMV XP, fitted with the brand-new Mangart 30 RCWS developed by Slovenian company Valhalla, was unveiled today during Slovenian Armed Forces Day. The turret is armed with a 30x173 mm autocannon, a 7.62 mm machine gun, and Spike anti-tank missiles. It is expected to enter service with the Slovenian Army alongside the Mangart 25 RCWS. The overall configuration closely resembles the Croatian Patria BOV-30L.

Mangart 25 on JLTV and Mangart 30 on AMV XP

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Damn that’s tall Spike-launcher. Reach for the stars

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Russian tanks wont need depression to hit that over the hill.

Interestingly I can not find Mangart 30 on Valhalla’s website. Fun new unique variant I suppose. Otherwise what Br you think this would get?

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Their website hasn’t been updated yet, likely because the turret was only revealed yesterday. However, they did post about it on their LinkedIn profile. In my opinion, it would be placed at br 10.7, just like the Vilkas, as the two are functionally the same.

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Megamind Rosomak

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It looks very interesting. I would like to see something like this in a game.

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What I find interesting is that they do not mention any missiles, I do not doubt that they can mount them but even on Linkedin they did not mention it.