They are.
Both were planned to be armed with weaponry, and there addition is supported by Gaijin’s rules.
this also applies to Yak-41, it was built and armament was planned, but the project was canceled before armament was equipped.
The only “True” paper vehicles in game are the R2Y2, Ho-Ri (Both), Tiger II 10.5, and the Panther II. (as well as the AJ but that was added as a balancing factor)
Problem of horten is that it has ufo flightmodel, which has nothing in common with real ho-229.
Besides, it’s uses napkin engines - jumo 004d, instead of real 004b. Not only were they not put on Horten and not planned, they did not exist at all.
The guns, with a wave of the developer’s hand, planned mk 108 turned into mk 103 which, due to the load on the power elements, would be extremely controversial even on a metal airframe, not even talking about wood.
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That’s the point. If they can be in game to fill a gap, the YAK-141 can too.
Both are functional prototypes.
i’ll rather get a br increase than another boring r27 wielder.
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4x R-27Ts as primary armament is only on Yak-141.
the ETS are great but the normal ones are lacklaster, usable but i prefer 2xR73s over the 27s
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The Yak-141 can’t carry R-73s…
Wait what? I swear it was planned to (IRL)
Maybe IRL, I’m not too sure but not in game.
It definitely can’t in game, I remember that much
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Definitely would be worth adding the R-77 and R-73 to this aircraft.
EDIT: No way people are arguing that this aircraft shouldn’t get a certain armament it was planned and CAN use when the Iranian tomcat has missiles it couldn’t even fire and incompatible with, that being the R-27R.
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The Iranian F-14A does not have weapons it couldn’t fire that would increase its BR.
R-27R is a sidegrade to Skyflash.
False equivalence fallacy, and still not fully proven it can’t fire them.
If and when its proven, it will be removed.
Your post just wants Yak-141 nerfed in BR.
I have no idea what you’re on about, I don’t care if it got a br increase or not, I believe this would be a extremely fun and potent aircraft with R-73 and probably R-77.
Except it’s not potent.
It’d be the same BR as Mig-29SMT, a vastly superior aircraft in airframe performance.
Yes I’m 100% in favour of R-77s and R-73s though it would mean 13.3.
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The Yak coupled with thrust vectoring and being able to flick it around when someone is trying to one or two circle you is amazing, with R-73 would make it better.
I suggest asking for these changes in the BR change thread, I just did so myself
that was an example.