Do we know anything about the autoloader mechanism? I’ve looked into it and I can’t find a specific method. I know it was hand loaded during the firing trials.
Hard agree!
I for one am all for adding these unique vehicle ideas and tests that Sweden has conducted, especially given it is a smaller tree than say USSR, Germany and USA. These quirky vehicles are very interesting and it feels like it would be such a shame to never implement them, even with something like the STRV 2000, like sure it was never built but vast majority of the parts existed in a usable state or in a state where they needed slight modification, only a couple things were missing. We’ve seen way faker vehicles been added before so I say why not!
There were 5 versions of the Strv 2000, none of them had both a 140mm cannon and 40mm cannon. The versions with the 40mm autocannon had a 120mm main gun, not a 140mm.
“Beväpning” means armament in Swedish.
Think they just copy pasted it and simply forgot that it was changed after doing the T120B
As far as i’m aware, the 140/40 in the name is specifically because it’s using a 140mm alongside the 40mm
Thats why you’d also find mentions directly below that screenshot of yours that said:
- T120 Bedömdes inte uppfylla kraven på verkan
- T120/40 Bedömdes inte uppfylla kraven på verkan
- L120 (30 ton) Uppfyller inte skyddskraven (endast splitterskydd)
You can take a guess why these had 120 in the name rather than 140
Also looking at the mock-up, it does seem like the barrel was a tad bit big for a 120mm, makes more sense if it was meant to be a 140mm
Alongside numerus drawings that depicted the 140 alongside the 40mm
On the same website, you can find few drawings they had of those other versions, with the text saying that they were 140mm alongside the 40mm
If i remember correctly, the whole reason they wanted the 40mm added was because of the increased shell size of the 140mm, compared to that of the 120mm, which meant less overall ammo
So the 40mm was meant to be used for targets that wouldn’t require as much firepower
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After gathering more information about the Strv 2000 Project, I realized I made several mistakes in my previous post. Apparently the only the T 140 and the T 140/40 are Strv 2000 concepts, the rest are completely other concepts.
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Sweden has no MBT at 11.7. Even though it was only a wooden mockup, just like the Ho-Ri, there is a role that needs to be filled. I believe that the Strv 102 at 8.3 and the Strv 103D at 9.3-9.7 may also be added.
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this would probably come in an update with other 140mm tanks like that leopard, Abrams, and Leclerc with 140s. I still want to see it though the impenetrable front plate and large gun would be very fun, but only Russia get oversized mbt cannons ig. it would be balanced top tier as even though its stated to have crazy pen like the 292 it had a ten second autoloader too.
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Nope, sadly
the strv2000 has little chance as it has only wooden mockups but the udes 19 and 20xx were fully working and firing so they can definitely come to the game
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Neither of these were shown in the picture however (which is what my response was centered around). The UDES 03 could be added, as it was a working prototype prior to the STRV 103.
The UDES 19 (Based on the German Marten IFV hull) was arguable on its firing ability. Considering it shared a cannon with the XX-20 mentioned earlier, it probably could fire, but without any schematics, you’re probably facing a SPRGC Type 60 or FIAT 6614 situation, where the reload takes forever if a Autoloader wasn’t implemented at the prototype phase.
As for the XX-20, it’s a much more promising system, given we’ve seen the thing live firing, let alone on flat surfaces with the gun facing to the side, showing its stability.
However!!! This mock up:
Is not the UDES XX-20 that underwent firing trials. which the gun system looks EERILY similar to what was on the UDES 19 (meaning it probably didn’t have a working gun at the time).
This, is the XX-20 that underwent live fire training:
Which can be seen firing its gun, and actually having visible signs of precision targeting drives on the gun mounts.
From my looks, it seems to raise the gun close to a 45° angle, lowering the breech into the hull, either to an Autoloader in the basket, or a manual loader.
While a working prototype was built, it’s sad that it’s either lost to time, scrapped, or destroyed, but the other earlier stated XX-20 was kept and iirc is at Arsenalen in Sweden.
The first picture I believe was a gun mockup, I’ve seen some similar closeups that show it’s empty the live fire was hand loaded tho because the auto loader was odd, it was similar to the bkan1c where an arm would shove a round from the rear hull to the gun, but this would limit the gun to prolly around 40 so it could be loaded, although we can see with other auto loaders the angle of turret doesn’t seem to effect war thunder loading as most tanks have specific angles they need to meet, I think the Og poster just messed up the wording as the image doesn’t show to udes 20xx, also we can see what happens when war thunder tries to add dual powered hulls(elde) they don’t really work well so I doubt gaijin will add the 20xx for a while but I’d still like to see the 19 as an unmanned l/44 is funny for sniping
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Well, the issue is, there is a UDES 19 that’s seems to have a working gun. The issue with it is that, it is the one on the hull of the Marten, but ii’s not in Swedish colors, and actually has a bundeswehr iron-cross on it.
it did weigh 65ton and so it is comparable to inbetween the abrams and leopard
the strv 200 was about as complete as the (somthing russian) soyuz so if it were russian it would probably be in the game
Different rules applies to different types of vehicles. But as @soymilkman noted and I can relate to these requirements should loosen up and only apply to fictional vehicles would open the options for countless unique ideas.
i was just mentioning that the gun looked like the one used for the mockup that was on a udes 19, I’m pretty sure both udes 19 and 20 had working guns, idk about live test fires for the 19 but i still think the udes program should be added and the strv 2000 should come with other 140mm tanks