I mean that was bc japan really needed something of that vehicle class and that was the only posible solution
strv2000 was
Nope.
Left: UDES 19
Middle: UDES 15/16
Right: UDES 11
All wooden mock-ups, but a prototype of the UDES 19 was built:
I wish the requirement for fully built vehicles would go, seeing as how its already been violated many times and realism flew out the window a long time ago. As long as the vehicle had a realistic chance to be built/functional, it would allow a lot more vehicles to be added especially for nations lacking as many choices as the “biggest” tech trees.
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There is no such requirement.
Aslong as specific parts were made for a vehicle, even if the entire vehicle was never completed, it can be added in accordance to it’s official blueprints.
For example, I asked a suggestion-mod about ET3/73,which was a KanJaPz Belgienausführung, which was to be modified and fitted with the Oerlikon GDD-A turret.
The modifications to fit said turret were all completed, the turret trialed on another hull though. As the trials came to an end, the turret never ended up being fitted to ET3/73 but it can still be added, as the KanJaPz hull was modified specifically for this purpose, i.e. a major specific component built.
Mockups (which Strv 2000 was) do not count for this rule. The other vehicles were partially completed/functional prototypes and can thus be added.
There are also a ton of public BOFORS patents for the autoloaders of each of these vehicles, so they can be modelled in accordance to those technically speaking.
Been a while since i was looking around for it so my memories is a bit vague but i think the plan was to potentially modify an imported 140mm from germany or such
if we use this pic for an idea, the main cannon is blue which means the system exists but would need to be adapted/modified
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Also we likely wont get this due to the fact that gaijin just cant make articulated vehicles as seen by the elde. They just have horrid mobility since the game engine just doesnt do those things
Its also the udes 20
No, again. Two distinct vehicles.
UDES 19
UDES XX 20
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Yes but the udes 20 is the udes xx 20 without the trailer
I feel like it would look a little odd without the trailer
It had the hull of the udes 19 but the gun of the udes xx 20
It would be one thing if there were already a lot of vehicles implemented in the national tree, but if there are only a few vehicles implemented in the national tree, wouldn’t it be okay to add more? I think it’s better to protect the uniqueness of the national tree than to run out of ideas or create copy-paste vehicles.
Also, I love strange tanks like the S-Tank, so I’m all for adding them!
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Absolutely, Sweden made heaps of unique tanks because they haven’t been at war, so they had time and resources to experiment. And I feel like I wouldn’t be alone if I said that the majority of Sweden’s tanks should be those unique ones
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Do we know anything about the autoloader mechanism? I’ve looked into it and I can’t find a specific method. I know it was hand loaded during the firing trials.
Hard agree!
I for one am all for adding these unique vehicle ideas and tests that Sweden has conducted, especially given it is a smaller tree than say USSR, Germany and USA. These quirky vehicles are very interesting and it feels like it would be such a shame to never implement them, even with something like the STRV 2000, like sure it was never built but vast majority of the parts existed in a usable state or in a state where they needed slight modification, only a couple things were missing. We’ve seen way faker vehicles been added before so I say why not!
There were 5 versions of the Strv 2000, none of them had both a 140mm cannon and 40mm cannon. The versions with the 40mm autocannon had a 120mm main gun, not a 140mm.
“Beväpning” means armament in Swedish.
Think they just copy pasted it and simply forgot that it was changed after doing the T120B
As far as i’m aware, the 140/40 in the name is specifically because it’s using a 140mm alongside the 40mm
Thats why you’d also find mentions directly below that screenshot of yours that said:
- T120 Bedömdes inte uppfylla kraven på verkan
- T120/40 Bedömdes inte uppfylla kraven på verkan
- L120 (30 ton) Uppfyller inte skyddskraven (endast splitterskydd)
You can take a guess why these had 120 in the name rather than 140
Also looking at the mock-up, it does seem like the barrel was a tad bit big for a 120mm, makes more sense if it was meant to be a 140mm
Alongside numerus drawings that depicted the 140 alongside the 40mm
On the same website, you can find few drawings they had of those other versions, with the text saying that they were 140mm alongside the 40mm
If i remember correctly, the whole reason they wanted the 40mm added was because of the increased shell size of the 140mm, compared to that of the 120mm, which meant less overall ammo
So the 40mm was meant to be used for targets that wouldn’t require as much firepower
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After gathering more information about the Strv 2000 Project, I realized I made several mistakes in my previous post. Apparently the only the T 140 and the T 140/40 are Strv 2000 concepts, the rest are completely other concepts.
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