yeah, the F-2 ADTW is literally a C&P F-2A without ARHs and it apparently can’t use AIM-120s so they can’t give it those and move it to 13.3, not that there is that much difference between AAM-4s and AIM-120s in game.
I would not say no to AIM-7Ps for it though.
Highly unlikely, premium F-2 with AMRAAMs would be much closer in performance to TT F-2 than to 13.3 F-16 ADFs.
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Oh sorry, I completely dumbed that comment, I meant to say “they can’t give it those” and use the “AIM-120 is worse than the AAM-4” excuse to put it lower than the TT F-2A, I’ll go back and edit that.
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ah i see, dw.
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And I agree with the F-16 point, the F-16 can carry 2x non IRCCM and 4x AIM-120 or 6X 120s while the F-2 would have 4x IRCCM and 4X ARHs, unless they ahistorically nerfed it by limiting it’s weapons (which I am not a fan of) I don’t see it being 13.3.
And when we get AAM-4B/ AAM5 I would rather an F-2A (late) in the TT than turning the ADTW into what the F-2A is currently.
I can only believe that they don’t understand what they’re asking for
why do you want to get the floor wiped with your Premium plane so badly?
No, they are not 14.0.
“Bro you dont understand by just adding X i believe MY plane can fight OTHER planes at equal ground (and will definetively stay the same BR)”
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Yes
I know what we’re asking for and I know it will get up tired but if the F-18 premiums get aim 120 As it would be historically accurate and worth the $80 because ether way it’s getting up tiered to those BRs
yeah, but what it’s not currently getting is up tiers to 14.7 to fight EFTs, Rafs and Su-30SM2s, not even to mention the 14.3s/ 14.0s
If those planes get ARHs
The big difference in between the two would be that the late has more counter measures and aim 120 Bs and aim 120 C-5 s but the early would just have aim 120 As
The first finnish Hornet sits at 14.0 with no HMD, 120x CMs and IIRC 120Bs (cant check not in game).
120Bs are identical to 120A for ingame purposes.
lol I just read the ( can’t check not in game) after trying to find the missiles in game
No, I cant check since im not in game, 120B is very much present.
What I’m trying to get out through the whole page is:
Is the F-18 premiums worth the price when there is other premiums near its BR getting fox 3s?
Should they get fox 3s and get a little up tier or no? BUT NOT TILL LATER if they were to get fox 3s.
Do something to the jet so it can survive its constant up tiers.
To be honest the F-18 does not work well with fox 1s, its not that type of fighter its more of a quick pace fighter.
The 12.7 18C early is really good jet that only suffers from compression.
13.3 is two BR steps away, and many people including me say that Premium su30s are undertiered and should be 13.7.
So yes, 18C early was worth it before addition of premium Su30s and will likely be worth it once again if that BR changes gets unfked.
I dont want such premium, i want to keep my 12.7 7P slinger.
Other things can be done before such radical rework that would make the plane worse.
How would you deal with people who bought 18C early specifically for the fact it has 7Ps and sits at 12.7?
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I think you are underestimating how much it will go up, just remember the F-2 ADTW is an exact C&P of the F-2A except for the AAM-4s and that’s a 2 step BR jump, so unless they leave the F/A18 with only aim-9Ls it will be a minimum of a 1 full BR increase even without the double AIM-120 racks.
Over all I agree with @Beeschurger s above comment, it’s an extremely good plane that is currently suffering from the compression of the BRs, I think it should stay as it is and every ARH plane should be moved up a BR step to give the SARH planes a bit more breathing room, most of the ARH planes aren’t too bad compared to other ARH slingers IMO, they are all just too oppressive against the SARH planes.
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uhoh no no no
it faces weak AMRAAM carriers right now
it doesn’t face the Ace combat Death sentences that are the Eurofighters, Rafales and SM2s and it really REALLY doesnt do well against them
Ive flown 14.0 Hornets
I do often find it interesting that people overlook lower BR as advantage, especially when it allows you to avoid meeting enemies entirely out of your league.