It clearly wasn’t overperforming. If it had , thread like this would be made. Oh wait
For the most part yes, it is like 95% 23s and 21s. The only outliers are 2 F4s, 2 mig25s, and 3 helicopters.
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Are there people really complaining about the F-15E’s nerf?? Bruh💀
Nerf’s are alright but the Sniper ATP as well as buffing all tgp’s to have more range than 20 km’s
Maybe getting then bol pods for the LAU-128 but the F-15E’s nerfs are acceptable
Not really, no. A few people thought the F-15E first iteration was correct and that it was nerfed only for balance instead of simply bringing it up closer to reality.
This in turn brought the stereotypical anti-US crowd jumping on the occasion to spew their venom against anybody playing US vehicles.
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Yes people are complaining that they did not get to experience the OP aircraft.
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lolno
F-15C/JM/E/I are 4 separate aircraft alone, then you have Su-34 as a slower yet still better-than-F-16 missile bus.
And @CyrusJackson made a good indirect point.
My statement is that Mig-29SMT is the best 13.3 in the game.
Just cause something can’t dogfight doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Who said F-22 BR 20? That’s pure American propaganda right there, American propaganda that the US media won’t even say.
It’s a stealth aircraft with an AESA radar. It’s a stealth Mitsubishi F-2.
Stealth is not a god, especially for air RB.
The thread is literally a complain about F15E/I nerf , what bro projecting here ? Imagine calling other Anti US cause your sensitive ego don’t like it when other nation player calling out US main and their whining about anything. Lmao , xd even, US main when their stuff is slightly nerfed( they die on the spot knowing they unable to bully other player without using their brain, not like they can bully anything with that OP line up anyway)
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Bro, your whining harder then everyone else. US main this US main that. How about you learn to talk about merits instead of identity.
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Thread about US , talking about US player. So i gotta mention something else to make it relevant ? Also the due above literally shame me for talking about other nation in this thread , I can’t please everyone so might as well no one , cope
Just talk about the plane. It’s nothing to do with US. It has to do with the 229 that was killing the game. Incase you missed it the I is upthere too
How about stop with the posts that contain racist undertones and just discuss things on-topic in the Machinery of War Discussions category?
You’ll note that many of us, Cyrus included, had no issues with the changes that were clearly founded in reality.
We were explaining to the OP that these changes were done via documentation and had nothing to do with an invisible hand.
There’s no need to have posts that are rude to people you personally disagree with.
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He literally did it first but sure , whatever. Did provide stuff but got called anti-US anyway , have it your way. I do agree with the nerf , especially after seeing the jet performance and it “counterpart” su34 , reason for the nerf is understandable , really no need for post like this to exist , i did provide my claim , they called me a anti-us
Then point out their post’s insult WHILE addressing on-topic points.
I know I’ve let myself get too defensive sometimes myself.
We’re all players here.
I hope you have a great day.
I literally replied to his message ? Didn’t just do a random target or whatever you called. The thread is a complain about the US stuff , in this case the F15E/I getting nerfed after one day, also literally
This is the main point of the thread , which doesn’t make sense. The dude made it so like gaijin buff and nerf stuff following what the large amount of the playerbase want, which is false. I would rather believe they balance stuff around winrate(which they do) than whatever conspiracy they cooking up here. This thread doesn’t have any value in the first place, cause the reason was pretty damn clear. Might as well make another post about fixing the turret ring , I would rather see them fixing that than these type of thread, so have a good day. I have no reason to target main this main that unless all they provide to me when defending their point is meaningless stuff. So far it just US main , have not seen Brit, jap or german for that matter.
This is Su-34 with 70% fuel 2xR-73 6xR-27ET and 2xR-77 (my A2A loadout)
vs
F-15E 100% Fuel and 8xAIM-120
20m altitude, Specific Excess Power at 0 (perfect turn rate) using this website StatShark - See All Player, Missile, and Vehicle Statistics to generate this graph.
F-15E post-nerf is still insane, it even has nearly the same performance as F-16C…
F-15E basically forces any opposition into low energy state because of how fast it climbs and how much extra energy it confers to its missiles.
Popular YouTuber and skilled player Defyn explaining how you can just farm 4 kills with almost 0 risk due to your overwhelming kinetic performance advantage using F-15E.
tl;dr there isn’t any way Su-34 or even most other planes can compete with F-15E and F-15E is the undisputed king of the meta for now, even after nerf.
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It’d be a shame if I just… stayed low and forced the F-15E to get closer, or worse I ambushed it…
F-15C/JM/E?I are all tied.
People are talking about the E cause few people actually tried it with the others.
They saw big thrust and only tried it with the E [not even the I].
While F-15E finally beats Yak-141 for time to altitude, F-15C was still 2nd behind Yak-141.
F-15C was still the fastest aircraft in War Thunder in top speed until F-111C’s addition, and 2nd fastest in acceleration behind Yak-141 until F-15E’s addition.
Which is why I bring up those 4 F-15s and not just the F-15Es.
While they are all 14.0 capable, the AIM-120 still has its flaws as a missile.
Man, F-15E were overperforming than historical spec.
So F-15E is adjusted, to suit more on their historical spec IRL.
(Of course, getting brimstone may be considered as an advantage over ‘not having at all’ but still at a disappointing level compared to Kh-38)
Congrats, You kept your overpowered and unhistorical F-15E for more than 24 hours.
while there are some jets which are dead on arrival.
You guys earned victory over cherry-picked nerf about the engine difference between F-15E and F-15I.
and USA has still one of the best nations in the air branch.
But, still whining about ‘why you Soviets nerfed F-15E less than two days after release’.
You US mains always talk about ‘historical accuracy’ when you guys have advantages over the rest of the 9 nations, but can’t accept adjusting for ‘historical accuracy’ in a nerfing way?
[F-14A slaughtering enemies with their historical manoeuvrability when there were no other 4th gen fighters] was fine
but [adjusting F-15E for historical accuracy] is demotivating.
Do you have a conscience?
I am trying to understand your disappointment, but It’s hard to understand what’s written by picking a terrible word from your biased perspective with anger. sir.
Bear with it. it is historically accurate (than before nerfing)
just like F100-PW-229 engine on F-15E does.
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F-15E player will still out-dogfight anything and it has buckets of countermeasures, it has no real weakness. Strictly speaking the only disadvantage is the lack of TVC missiles meaning you have to use your very noticable performance advantage to get kills.
The basic point here is your kit and performance have near perfect synergy, an F-15E player is never ever forced to take any slightly uncomfortable fights or ever pushed into a situation where they lose through any fault of the plane or kit.
There’s still an advantage for F-15E here for much of the flight regime.
Top tier air right now consists of two options:
Try to climb, where you will eat an AIM-120 launched by an F-15E/I which is nearly ripping its wings off at 7km+ altitude way before you could ever get near it. Totally zoned out by the most dominant missile in the current meta launched from the best platform.
Hug the ground, rolling the dice if you get blown up because you had higher than 20m radar altitude for the wrong 3 frames. Following the terrain like this bleeds energy constantly and prevents the beginning of contesting an energy advantage that you already had no hope to ever contest. Any attempt to return fire with your own ARH will just be defeated by the most basic of BVR manuevering.
There is no counterplay to this meta. Other planes are demoted to third-class citizens, whom can scrounge for scraps of RP if F-15E deigns to let them.
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At least didn’t end up like F117 lol.
Good to know that S/ARH updates were just a massive waste of resources, considering you’ll only have to stay low in order to render them useless.