Why the turret basket nerf to the Leopard 2 series and Abrams tanks were absolutly brilliant

Nice cope.

I do not think that the Turret Basket change itself was a bad thing, it was the fact it was cherry picked to be for specific vehicles. I think that it was for this reason, that there was such an outrage over the change. What should have happened, is that Gaijin should have added turret baskets to all nations (yes even t-series) at once so everyone will have the same treatment and so no one person with loyalty to a nation (Usa mains, russian mains and german mains) can say “insert nation bias” when everyone got the change.

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Nah, you’re actually hilarious 🤣

I live rent-free in the heads of IvanBoos and some mods. It’s flattering, really.

I’m like their personal bogeyman and I don’t even try.

I’d say you are but you’re really not entertaining at all. You should try harder.

I think other tanks are getting the detailed models soon too, right?
Its gonna be more fun when everyone vehicle has more damage models

Not only the Ariete armor Is wrong and gaijin don’t want to fix It despite knowing It but Also our only competitive MBT got two massive Nerf

Truly a blessing for Italy

Dominates so much that Germany has some of the worst win rates. While nations constantly proclaimed to be suffering have pretty good ones. But sure, it’s the tens of thousands of players across those nations who all just happen to be good or bad depending on which nation they play.

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Man I’m sorry but the US main cope is wild. Just because other people know where to aim that doesn’t mean the tank is bad. The Abrams is a good tank, one of the best MBTs in the game. It’s not going to be a mindless point-and-click adventure. I’m tired of US and Russia/Soviet mains whining about how their stuff is bad or how they need buffs or cry when something gets nerfed. Those two nations have some of the best lineups in the game at most BRs, and all they do is complain. Go play the Ariete or Leclerc for a few months instead of the Abrams and get some fresh perspective.

Normally I wouldn’t be so harsh but good lord when does it end? You could put the F-15 at 12.3 and US mains would find a way to complain about it.

Is there a problem with Russian vehicles over performing in game? Absolutely, and that’s not your fault. However that’s literally everybody’s problem except Russian mains. When you put the NATO tanks side by side the Leo 2 and Abrams are pretty glaringly the best and as a result most played MBTs. I absolutely hate the whole “oh it’s a skill issue” people, but in this case… it might actually be, I’m sorry. You have to accept that top tier is pretty much a one shot point and click simulator if the players have any sense of where to aim. That’s not going to change, and if you’re dying a lot on the Abrams it’s because you’re getting in bad situations, or simply because they knew where to shoot and got there first. But you have to seperate the two ideas and understand that the shitshow that is top tier gameplay is like that for most everyone, it’s not an Abrams problem, it’s a top tier problem that affects all of those tanks. But as far as the miserable top tier disaster goes, the Abrams is less miserable than many of its peers.

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abrams is one of the worst MBT, literally useless
its literally paper armor, it has a HUGE lfp that gets lolpenned by any MBT that leads in 99% of cases to one shot kill and hull is really weak everywhere
meanwhile russians with their tiny lfp
you literally dont have to aim to kill an abrams because its one huge weakspot
the only way to play abrams is trying to snipe with your turret out and pray that you dont get hit in turret ring/gun

“T-80BVM is one of the worst MBTs, literally useless. Paper turret armor that gets lolpenned by 10.7 tanks, 3rd worst round in the game. You don’t have to aim against T-80BVM because it’s one huge weakspot.”

It’s in quotes cause it’s a hypothetical using the same exact rules you used, and of course I wouldn’t believe that position personally.

Abrams fires the best MBT round in the game out of the 2nd best gun reloading every 5.3 seconds with among the best mobility.
T-80BVM has similar mobility to an Ariete firing a round equivalent to L27, DTC-10, and OFL 120 F1 rolling a 6.5 second reload.
Neither are good in the armor department compared to Leopard 2A7V, that does not make them bad though.

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lmao t80bvm that can be killed only in its tiny lfp and driver port from the front?
t80bvm that can block APFSDS from the side with its imaginary stats ERA?
abrams has literally no hull armor
france has it worse but atleast they get a leo in their tree

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Dude claims the entire T-80BVM turret is just a drivers port and lower plate.
Dude claims <200mm can block APFSDS but 380 can’t. [They both can’t.]

Either way, T-80BVM and Abrams are perfectly serviceable tanks with Abrams being better due to ammo, reload, and mobility.

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Again, Abrams is good for players that are great and relies more on crew skill.(Hence why they’re usually the last ones left in tournaments.) But normal players suffer more for mistakes. (Which in turn makes it seem like ass)

T-XX Are good for random chaotic battles. They have more passive strengths and less active ones. Meaning normal players tend to get away with more for their mistakes. But great players can’t use them as effectively as an Abrams or leo.

P-51 vs Zero problem.

And once again you prove my point by being so focused on the Abrams and waaa why isn’t Abrams invincible. The Arietes are at the same BR as the Abrams and they can be penned through the cheeks even. Hell, the Ariete can be penned through the LFP by SPAAs and auto cannons. The Japanese Type 10 has just as “bad” frontal armour as the Abrams and worse side armour. The Leclerc, while a bit better armoured than the Ariete, is penned almost anywhere by top tier rounds like the DM53. The Challenger 2 has massive weak spots and abysmal side armour, again far worse than the Abrams, and doesn’t even get the nice extremely sloped UFP that ricochets rounds. And out of all these vehicles, the Abrams has some of the best mobility. The only NATO tank that is decidedly better than the Abrams in every way is the Leopard 2. Every other NATO top tier MBT is just as vulnerable and easy to kill, if not more easy to kill, many of them don’t even get the option of hoping their turret cheeks stop something because a round can go clean through even the thickest part. And I’m not even talking a dm53, I’m talking the Ariete getting turret cheek punched by dm33.

So again, I’m sorry you’re having a bad time and have to experience the shit show that is top tier, but EVERYBODY SUFFERS THESE ISSUES. Many of them suffer WAY MORE than the Abrams. So instead of “waaahhhh my Abrams isn’t an invincible super tank,” let’s see the actual problem that is simply top tier gameplay. It’s ALL lolpen call-of-duty-ass rush in and kill with one shot gameplay for every nation. Your bad experience is valid and I empathise with you, but it does not point to an Abrams problem, it’s that simple. This is a top tier problem, and as I’ve already said before, countries like France, Italy, and the UK have it far worse with their top tier MBTs. So again, go play the Ariete AMV for a bit and see how you feel then, report back to me buddy.

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when are they going to revert this artificial and unrealistic nerf? its just reminds me the gaijin has no idea about game design and only pump out new vehicles and horrid maps, lets all remember that we are still playing the same type of game mode from almost a decade ago with little to no changes and laugh at gaijin for being so lazy.

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