I mean Merks have seen combat lately but all of that happened against hand-made RPGs.
It’s clear that they were designed for urban environments going mainly against CE threats, so their KE protection is up to debate.
For balancing reasons they could receive a buff to their KE protection, but suddenly making it the most armored tank against KE makes no sense.
This is why the most effective tactic for israel main is to just quit whining and fly the goddamn plane.
Why exactly? The Leo 2A7 has relliable turret and hull armor, the same way the STRV 122+. The Abrams also has relliable turret armor and an UFP that sometimes bounces shells. Why does the Merkava have to be doomed to having paper armor all around while also being the biggest MBT?
The Abrams’ hull can survive direct hits to it? At least two-thirds of it can’t, and neither can over half of its right turret (in game, at least). I agree with the rest, though.
Crazy how you call it whining but provide zero sources to your “muh it wouldn’t survive a DM63”
Straight up twisting my word to fit your narrative. I’ve seen this before. Again, quit whining and get on the plane. There’s a reason IDF pimp their planes and it’s to pound the earth.
Just ignore
Thos israel haters clearly doesnt care from the state of israel unless there is a vehicle that is overperforming
Every non bias player who played the merkava know it is in a very bad state
Keep in mind its slower than a CR2 (somehow still faster than the T/OES LMAO)
If it got turret and UFP armor that stops all darts in the game then I’d lose it’s biggest con by far. At that point it would be the strongest tank in the game, as it would have other advantages over tanks like 2A7, such as no weird depression angles blocking your barrel from going down, being able to side scrape much more effectively due to the engine in the front, 5s reload, etc.
Considering Merkava 4s have 22-23 HP/t only the 2E would have slightly better mobility than them, while other Challengers would be far behind in mobility department.
Even if it was the strongest tank in the game, I really doubt it would change anything, you still get matches where there are only 6 or 7 nations participating at top tier and I dont think anyone is grinding with just magachs and sho´ts just to arrive at a top tier thats like america´s just without the spaa and a prettier looking tank…
As far as I know, the addition of armor would of course mean that the tank would weigh the 80 tons everyone says it weighs. Taking that into account, it would be slower with roughly 18.75 HP/ton (if I’ve done the maths correctly).
How or why would that make it heavier? A fully combat loaded Merkava weighs around 66 tons. Its about making the armor accurate.
From what I can see, you want it to get armor that’s equal or better than that of 2A7 while having no other disadvantages bar smaller ammo number behind a blowout panel and spall liners. Even in the current state, Merkava 4s have some advantages over tanks such as 2A7, so giving them similar/better armor would make them better than tanks that are already too much for 12.0.
As I said, I wouldn’t mind seeing armor improvements for mainly the turret (2A7 level), with UFP being able to tank some hits from worse shells like 3BM46 and such. That should be more than plenty.
I don’t know about that I had heard that the Merkavas wighed 80 tons. Although I find it hard to believe that such a big tank with armor can weigh ‘only’ 66 tons.
The tank would weigh 84 tons if it got its proper armor.
But 84 tons??? where are you getting these numbers from???
An IDF video once said it was 80 tons. As far as I know, it’s the only source saying its that heavy. IDF does have a history of using buzzwords and whatnot to “twist” things to be different, despite not being so, example being with things like the ROEM 155mm SPH, where they said it was the worlds first “automatic SPH” or something along those lines. Unless more sources exist, I would not trust that, but that’s just in my view
why can china, russia, usa and the 4 nations that get access to 12.0 leopards have tanks with relliable hull and turret armor while the least grinded nation in game needs to comfort with a big practice target? When you come across a T90, Leopard, ZTZ or Abrams you have to turn on your brain for at least a fraction of a second to avoid shooting at anythig that isnt the guntlet, turret ring or LFP. The Merkava already has the biggest LFP with the abrams and it also has the BIGGEST UFP. Also, you dont seem to mind that there is already a tank with the handling of the merkava and armor of a leo 2A7… well there is 2, the 2A7 and the 122+…
its not IDF. Both the ministry of defense and Rafael (the comany that makes the APS) say that a fully combat loaded merkava stay at around 66.5 tons…