80 ton of CE screen will not increase your chance to survive a DM63 to the face. Again, stop whining, strap that Ra’am and Barak to your lineup, go cap a point with namer, get an assist and a kill, then spawn the goddamn plane.
I think that what he meant to say is that 80 tons of tank with only CE protection is not very reasonable. Although they might have been built to be protected against CE projectiles, it doesn’t mean that it can only take CE rounds (logically speaking). That is taking into account that he said 80 tons. Whether it’s 80 or 65, I won’t fight about that.
I know. all im saying is 80 Ton of Composite armour with focus against DU and Tungsten dart will infinitely perform better than 80 Ton Anti-Chemical protection.
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Ah, okay. That’s true.
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Why ppl saying merkava doesnt have ke protection?
There is tons of bug reports showing it does have it and great one (germany military man said its on leo level)
Also idf stated it can stop every threat in the region which means it can stop ke-w on egypt abrams
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hmmm why does this ping me? 🤔
I mean Merks have seen combat lately but all of that happened against hand-made RPGs.
It’s clear that they were designed for urban environments going mainly against CE threats, so their KE protection is up to debate.
For balancing reasons they could receive a buff to their KE protection, but suddenly making it the most armored tank against KE makes no sense.
This is why the most effective tactic for israel main is to just quit whining and fly the goddamn plane.
Why exactly? The Leo 2A7 has relliable turret and hull armor, the same way the STRV 122+. The Abrams also has relliable turret armor and an UFP that sometimes bounces shells. Why does the Merkava have to be doomed to having paper armor all around while also being the biggest MBT?
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The Abrams’ hull can survive direct hits to it? At least two-thirds of it can’t, and neither can over half of its right turret (in game, at least). I agree with the rest, though.
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Crazy how you call it whining but provide zero sources to your “muh it wouldn’t survive a DM63”
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Straight up twisting my word to fit your narrative. I’ve seen this before. Again, quit whining and get on the plane. There’s a reason IDF pimp their planes and it’s to pound the earth.
Just ignore
Thos israel haters clearly doesnt care from the state of israel unless there is a vehicle that is overperforming
Every non bias player who played the merkava know it is in a very bad state
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Keep in mind its slower than a CR2 (somehow still faster than the T/OES LMAO)
If it got turret and UFP armor that stops all darts in the game then I’d lose it’s biggest con by far. At that point it would be the strongest tank in the game, as it would have other advantages over tanks like 2A7, such as no weird depression angles blocking your barrel from going down, being able to side scrape much more effectively due to the engine in the front, 5s reload, etc.
Considering Merkava 4s have 22-23 HP/t only the 2E would have slightly better mobility than them, while other Challengers would be far behind in mobility department.
Even if it was the strongest tank in the game, I really doubt it would change anything, you still get matches where there are only 6 or 7 nations participating at top tier and I dont think anyone is grinding with just magachs and sho´ts just to arrive at a top tier thats like america´s just without the spaa and a prettier looking tank…
As far as I know, the addition of armor would of course mean that the tank would weigh the 80 tons everyone says it weighs. Taking that into account, it would be slower with roughly 18.75 HP/ton (if I’ve done the maths correctly).
How or why would that make it heavier? A fully combat loaded Merkava weighs around 66 tons. Its about making the armor accurate.
From what I can see, you want it to get armor that’s equal or better than that of 2A7 while having no other disadvantages bar smaller ammo number behind a blowout panel and spall liners. Even in the current state, Merkava 4s have some advantages over tanks such as 2A7, so giving them similar/better armor would make them better than tanks that are already too much for 12.0.
As I said, I wouldn’t mind seeing armor improvements for mainly the turret (2A7 level), with UFP being able to tank some hits from worse shells like 3BM46 and such. That should be more than plenty.