The ironic bit is that a little while ago ARAT was given a realistic total thickness when they overahauled it’s visual model making it both more realistic and actually useful. But of course we cant have that, and the changes were quickly reverted before the patch dropped.
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Honestly the Merkava Mk.4 is the worst of them all.
(I’ve heard the ariete also sucks but haven’t looked into it really.)
The Merks have no armor to speak of,
the engine doesn’t provide armor, it creates more spall.
The entire tank can be lol penned by 500+mm flat pen kinetic rounds, it’s crazy dumb…
It has a massive profile,
and is working with the longer of the manual reloads of 6 seconds (supposedly irl it can have a 5 second reload from the ready rack, but gaijin uses reload for balancing purposes so idk if this matters).
At least it has APS, but lately it’s a gimmick on most vehicles I’ve been playing…
Abrams isn’t the only “MBT” that’s suffering, and in my book it isn’t the “worst”
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Because of Gaijin’s biases, more than anything else. Same applies for the Arietes, Challengers, Leclercs, Merkavas and Type 90s/10s.
None of it is allowed to be properly competitive against ole’ glorious Russia.
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If nobody is allowed to beat Russia, then how come I’ve had no issues killing T-72s, T-80s, and T-90s in the M1?
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I personally can’t wait for them to add the SEPv3. Sure the turret ring will still be a weakspot, but at least it will somewhat punish really bad aim.
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Bold of you to assume its not just going to be the M1A2 with some stuff attached to the exterior.
Its not going to get better armor.
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They probably don’t know what to guestimate it’s armor as so I think you are right, even though it would go against a large part of the arguments they made against SEPv2 better hull armor (not enough increase in weight).
With the lack of spall liners and the general doctrine of CE survivability, you can’t expect much from the abrams with KE protection.
I’ve always enjoyed the thought of M829A3, but I feel it’s simply a hard shot to implement in the current sim.
You have ARAT-II, and neither 9M127 nor 9M123 are “IEDs”, nor does the M1A2 have any way to counter them.
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SEPv2 has applicable upgrades as well…
Gen 2 thermals, new armor package…
What issue is there?
How so?
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It would?
Got proof for that beyond the Trophy counterweights and the pixel search on the turret cheeks?
The V3 has the same exact PR statements made about it as the V1 and V2 did with the same bog standard “improved armor package” for both the hull and turret and neither of the former have any improvements over the original 1986 HC upgrade.
Of what, upgraded composites?
Do you want the NGAP funding docs, the serial number notation, or dimensional changes?
No, the SEPv3 is stated to have NGAP, not HAP.
M1A1HC was introduced in November of 1990, not 1986.
Yep
Array dimensional changes are not indicative of armor improvements per gaijin.
Now prove to gaijin they are different.
The first M1A2 was produced in 1986.
There any evidence that the turret ring area of the Abrams is a shot trap? It wasn’t when first added to game.
Reverting or reducing the area would make the tank more competitive.
SEPV2 has exactly the same thermals as the SEPv1
Doesn’t offer more effective protection than TUSK I.
Everything that TUSK II stops is also stopped by TUSK I lol. And everything that defeats TUSK I will also have no problem defeating TUSK II.
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That’s not what I was saying
Array dimensional changes are indicative of a composite change. Whether it be more, a different design… Anything.
All it does is validate the fact that SEPv3 uses NGAP.
And the first HC package was introduced in 1990.
And the SEPv1 has gen 2 thermals, unlike the previous Abrams iterations.
We should judge “applicable upgrades” of a new flagship vehicle to the previous flagship vehicle of said nation, which is the SEPv1.
And as of now the SEPv2 has more/bigger applicable downgrades than upgrades compared to the SEPv1.
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That’s exactly what I did.
M1A2 - Gen 1 thermals
M1A2 SEP - Gen 2 thermals
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Ah yes I’m sure you did:
Where do you want to move the goalpost to next?
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