Why Germany have the worst leopard variants

Hah don’t like it when something other than Russian tanks have frontal hull armor hah?

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not to mention that the armour on russian T64 evolutions overperforms massivley

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Don’t have as good backup like the swedish (the manufacturer really?)

it is the complete reason why Russian dominate before 2A7
i mean sure it might not in some long-range map but CQC cluster F average WT match? when entire hull is green to Russian while Russian enemy has to aim some weak spot
It took 2A7V to dethrone them
yeah, that fair right?

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T-80BVM is pretty bad and in general I perform terrible in any T-80, honestly, the armor is ok but just because I said something is better than T-80BVM doesn’t mean I don’t want the specified object to be better, I’m just using it as reference to determinate something is well armored or not because for months T-80BVM been main topic regarding overperformance of kinetic energy explosive reactive armor. That said, I prefer the Type 10s composition of armor, yet doesn’t cover much but a thin portion of the upper half of the front of the chassis and the front of the turret but still hold a lot of shots if it’s badly placed.

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It pretty much only few tanks that can go toe to toe with Uparmored Leopard
same go as BVM the only few tanks that able to go toe to toe with them are uparmored Leopard
and the nature of average WT maps you know how it’s going.

Yes you mentioned the map, regarding this, that’s why I prefer T-90M, it’s not mobile as the T-80BVM or any other Western MBT like the AMX 56 Leclerc, when I’m fighting for a street corner I would prefer to go for it at solid 30 km/h with good armor to have time to think rather than 70 km/h and dying in the proccess. Friend of mine have the opposite opinion and states the T-80BVM is better, I say don’t,

If we’re getting at a point of 200 m/square maps, at some point T-80BVM may become obsolete when uparmored vehicles like the Leopard 2 HU and maybe at some future the Leopard 2E that, if I’m not mistaken uses the same Chempro as the Strv 122 does, then yes, it will be very useless, because I think it’s just me playing it wrong at the moment.

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Yeah, that why i always anti small maps in high tier it made no armor tanks next to useless
light tanks can’t work fast moving light armor MBT can’t work the only armor vs armor is work
Yeah, I know it fair that Russian tanks vs Uparmored Leoapard fighting in street but the other they almost have no chance against both Challenger best example they not gonna be able to fight both in street because soon as they pop out it die.

Greece uses the 2A6HEL, as far as I know.

No? Leopard 2E is just a descendant of the Leopard 2A6EX (created shortly after the Swedish Trials, went on to square off against M1A2 SEP in Turkey where it won), same with 2A6HEL.

In fact… 2A6EXs hull was used for the PSO demonstrator:

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Sweden is allowed to have stronger leopards because it’s a minor nation. There are a lot more german players so even one 2a7 is already a lot to deal with for Russian mains, after all they never needed to learn weak spots in cope thunder before

No, because they bought stronger.
The STRV 122s are uparmored because sweden ordered them to be so, germany didn’t.

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This is dumb that Germany the nation famous for there great leopard tanks in game got the worst versions all gaijin fault adding wrong variants

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Leopard 2ex/tvm have similar armor

Devs don’t care what armies actually bought.all that matters to them is to bait people into grinding more trees and making Russia look good

And they did get ordered when again?

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I mean… Gaijin has proven time and time again that they can and will add vehicles that nations haven’t even ordered, were never in service, and their only purpose was to demonstrate a certain technology/capability (CR 3 TD and Strv 122B+ come to mind).

As such, I do believe Leopard 2A6EX could genuinely be added, then there’s also the Leopard 2A7+ that has actually been trialed by the Bundeswehr and certified by them as well.

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was there a suggestion made for it? NVM found it

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What is with the Russophobia in this forum? What a baseless, stupid thing to post…

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