APHE is not a superior round in the real world
Its costlier to manufacture
It is less reliable than solid shot alternatives
Well, we all know…
Gaijin is charming their eyes for Nerf British and looks British main suffer…
As a joke
If the British were the only nation which used APHE, the Reliability issue of APHE’s fuse might be implemented, and the shell would always malfunction when it hit the enemies.
Well, I don’t know. maybe Gaijin’s another double standard?
They are only strict when they nerf and lynch the British I guess.
adding captured vehicles in British is forbidden
giving British vehicles an APHE version of M61 APCBC which has 75mm QF Mk. V gun and fires a Solid Version of M61 as ‘Technically compatibility’ is also prohibited…
I am sure that if the UK used APHE and America used the Solid AP version of the M61 shot,
(Assuming that we have Completely opposite of the current ingame situation)
then USA might have an option to use M61 APCBC with filler.
“Technically 75mm M3 cannon can fire both versions of M61 APCBC so it is fine!” maybe?
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See we also have running a thread for WW2 separation on here and those against it claim Gaijin dont do history they do balance.If that is the case do UK APHE and roof mounted MG. If we are doing what is historically correct then remove the modern artillery from 6BR and give us WW2 as it would have been to a degree.
Do the history or dont do the history I dont care but to hit us with this confusing mess,no wonder the OP asks this question.
I don’t see the correlation, UK just didn’t really use a lot of APHE outside of naval guns and Sweden is another country
Even though it is outlined in the question?
His answer wasn’t really limited to WW2 Historical AccuracyTM, during tank development of WW2 UK just didn’t really develop APHE for it’s native tanks.
You could say in the same context that the 1980s+ Challenger MBTs not having HEAT was a “Historical Issue”
If the game is doing historical accuracy they why feature Sweden in WW2? Why not start Sweden as they started Israel,post war at 6BR?
Actually why start Israel at 6BR if we are not taking history into consideration,they had plenty of 4BR tanks at the start? I’m not trying to be an ass but can you see where I am coming from here?
He mentioned history and you are going on the wildest tangent.
Where is my wild tangent?
UK not using APHE historically =/= Sweden shouldn’t be in the game for historical accuracy
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So the question is, are we doing history in this game or not ? How is that a wild tangent?
Seems clear as day to me. One might assume or suggest that the OP is in some way trolling but it is very likely they are genuinely baffled as to why the UK have no APHE in a game that is balance based not history based. I see that as reality not some wild tangent.It’s observation and while I am on here discussing this topic I am also on another topic requesting WW2 only modes or era based game play.The answer there of course is " Oh WT does not do history only balance"
The answer in a contradictory fashion of “History” no APHE due to history.I fond myself having to state the obvious here.
Well, not having APHE in most British vehicles itself might be considered as historical issue
While USA-USSR gets every unhistorical but possible thing in every possible way as a ‘balancing issue’
‘Historically accurate’ is Gaijin’s most favourite butcher’s knife when stabbing minor nations only. :|
I never saw F-5C whose countermeasure pod got removed due to a historical issue.
(It is a fact that there are some F-5C variants which got received their CM upgrade IRL, but none of the USAF F-5C might made that upgrade bc their service life in the USAF was extremely short)
but we don’t have M61 APCBC with fillar.
‘Fair and Balancing, with historical accuracy’ (Laughs). Typical Gaijin’s double standard.
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I can accept a path either :
1 Gaijin follows history so suck up any imbalance
2 Gaijin ignores history to prevent imbalance in the game.
So is that what we have with War Thunder ? …er…No !
Eddie tends to write about some of the most extravagant topics.
Pretty sure representing historical vehicles is in War Thunders mission statement
Because the answer to British tanks not having APHE is unrelated to WW2 MM
lel
So to speed this up to it’s logical conclusion real quick; should the Challenger MBTs all receive stock HEAT-FS to balance them with other tech trees?
Well, I am not Eddie though
IMO, As long as we don’t have any proof that L30 cannon can utilize HEAT-FS, we shouldn’t get HEAT-FS on the challenger MBT
Still, I am fine to give stock APFSDS to every other tech tree just like Britain does. limiting their stock ammunition only as HEAT-FS is dumb cheap pickpocketing I think.
M61 APCBC (With/Without filler) has a smaller difference than giving HEAT-FS to challenger MBT
So it might be fine to have every British gun which can fire (OQF 75mm Mk.V)
or just get rid of [M61 APCBC with filler] of Sherman 3 and Churchill NA75.
I understand your point, but still, Gaijin is quite strange for adding weaponry onto the vehicle.
- Giving British-origin vehicles which can fire M61 APCBC with filler is prohibited due to historical issue
- but Giving British vehicle which has American 75mm M3 cannons is fine to shoot them bc technically they can.
Quite strange to have weaponry which got introduced by MPOV :|
That is the truth. APDS which was designed I assume to defeat Warsaw pact armor in real life, is always a gamble on whether it will actually pen and cause any damage or just bounce. Gets pretty tiresome having to fire multiple shots into vehicles, even when you are aiming for crew or ammo locations. Don’t even start on HESH. That round may or more likely may not work.
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Was it prohibited? I’m not against the idea of adding M61 with filler for OQF 75mm guns if they were used but in terms of British tanks as a whole that only really covers the 75mm Valentine/Cromwell and Churchill.
It’s why I really hate playing Britain from 6.7 and up - The APDS is awful. Same goes for playing APDS in general really, but Britain is especially stuck between that and Solid AP.
Extremely unenjoyable to play.
And HESH? Useless, lol.
well fix Hesh first then cause the brits like it even though it performs like a HE shell so there is no difference. which begs the question why is the FV4005 Hesh shell less effective then a 155mm HE with less explosive mass?
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