Weird since the T-80 turret can be penned anywhere there’s no ERA.
The 2A5 turret can only be penned at the breech.
Its funny watching you defend Soviet tanks with incorrect information.
@DocUSMC
All Soviet vehicles in War Thunder are real vehicles.
The fact you call VK4005 “napkin” just cause you hate military vehicles is annoying.
And no, there are no 2024 tanks in WT.
The only 2020 tank is Leopard 2PL. There is no 2019 tank.
There is T-90M Obj 2020, T-90M with Arena, and of course T-14. All real tanks.
Let’s not forget the 152mm T-14 prototype for the top end to go against M1A1 140 & Leopard 2 130.
We already have proper ammunition.
Mig-29 is pulling its correct 12G limit, as will F-15 when its introduced.
The fact you want F-15 to rip at 7Gs, and F-4 to rip at 7Gs, is a bit sad.
How is HE effective against M48 cast turrets? Why should it degrade?
And yes, in-game all cast armor is 20% less effective.
do you have any source that backs that up, becase “first gen anti-era” rounds were designed to defeat the Kontakt-5 not the relikt, meanwhille there are non russians sources that actually states that the dm53/63 is inadequate against relikt.
Spallin is actually disabled on russian tanks, but not NATO. We have proven this with datamines. They have been caught cheating us, but we are stuck with the bullshi…
Yes, Isreal, German, and US testing has shown that russian ERA isn’t great.
If only public testing is allowed, then all russian vehicles need to be revamped from their “secret documents” they won’t let anyone see. They need to hold themselves to the same standard they expect of us.
Of course we aren’t going to give them classified documents, but that means they need to be held to public data on russian vehicles. NOT PROPOGANDA which we know their vehicles are full of over performance. But actual normal public data. Lucky for us the war in Ukraine has exposed that their tanks are very easy to defeat. This is enough data. The NATO rounds are punching right through reklit and their armor detonating the tanks on a single hit. I have photos of this I can probably share. I just need to ask.
Actually pen is not fine. I have shared multiple documents that prove this. Their numbers are too high for russian ammunition. Also post-pen damage. Perforation and spalling is near non existant and often TURNED off for russian vehicles. This shouldn’t be the case. Especially with so many russian tanks using cast armor. They should spall like no other, and cast armor is 20% less effective than rolled steel. So yes, post pen is not working correctly.
Which benefits russia more than anyone with their cast armor. If HE worked properly, they would be in a much worse place. Hell, artillery and AGM munitions would actually work properly.
I do have sources that back it up, but again I would need to run it through the course to make sure that it can be shared. I am not going to be the next leak of classified information. But this is my day job. So I know first hand, the T80BVM and other russian tanks are far over performing. If I know this, then the snail with its ties and support to the russian kremlin know it as well. Lets not pretend to play stupid.
Kontakt 1 isn’t that great.
And Kontakt 5 required new munitions to punch through.
We’re learning about Relikt soon, but A4 should already defeat it.
Then there’s Kaktus which we don’t know about.
All T-series tank armor is publicly available, and has been posted on the forum multiple times.
T-80BVM’s composite is the most unclassified armor in the world.
You don’t have photos of round hitting Relikt than going through, no one does.
this isnt really much of an agument as you think, since we don even know where you actually work and if it is actually true, it is basically “trust me bro” level of argument.
btw did you actually bother to read the document that i attached below ? becase the last time that i look it up the bundestag is not the kremlin
M829A1.
M829A2.
We are missing the A3 and A4 variant in game. Which should have already been added.
Lots of modern ammunition has anti-era tips. Older ammunition has effectively been upgraded in testing as well with some specialized caps to defeat era. Since it has been done in testing, that means its ok to be in the game (this is the standard they set with russian vehicles).
Those issues have been fixed, and are no longer issue. I also did comment that it says “no longer” meaning changes were made to the ERA, and then changes were made to the ammunition. This means that those rounds should be placed early enough in game to be effective. They should not be another DOA project added to NATO that makes no sense. Kind of like how jets are already DOA thanks to over the top power creep. I feel really bad for nations that are going to get jets that are already out classed and not worth grinding. It is dumb.
You can google it yourself. War thunder images were even used in russia to promote the war in Ukraine. I won’t go any further to avoid “politics” you have google. Even PC Gamer did an article on it. So again, lets not play coy or stupid.
They already have this, the carousel is immune from det on all modern russian tanks in game. Some have detonation set to 0% chance. We found this in the code.
T55 has 4 crew and dominates at its Br. T62, o435, o279, o268, IS3, IS4, IS6, IS7, T34, T54, SU122… all have 4 or more crew.
the fixes that the germans are proposing is the ke2020neo or the dm73… so i dont know what youre talking about… btw this is a 2020 document, so even if they did changes to the ammunition, the dm53 wouldnt even be affected by those changes. since germay has the dm63 in service, and they are soon to introduce the dm 73