This again, sorry for saying this but, is an unsupported view. To make this easier to comprehend, SLERA during testing managed to decrease the perforation of an M322 by about ~47%, which when translated to numbers is about ~280mm, on the other than the wedges (which are a part of D-technology as a whole), had managed to increase the relative armour amount of the Leopard 2s turret by ~320mm (or ~40%). Those two armours are around 10 years apart in terms of development, yet their performance in actual numbers is quite comparable - so I personally, do not see why the former should or would be “better” as you have stated here:
Then don’t comment on a forum related the incorrect armor values for Israeli vehicles about “how I’m getting owned” when all I did was state SLERA is underperforming and should be better than the Leopard’s armor.
The Leopard 2 weighs 65 tons roughly versus the Merkava 4M’s weight of 80 tons.
This is due to armour density that anything else. Most of the Leopard 2s armour is heavily concentrated at the front, Merkava spreads its armour more evenly and armour the sides to a roughly the same level as the front. That’s not a bad thing per se, but it heavily limits how well armoured the front can be in comparison to say, the Leopard 2, whose frontal armour is much thicker & likely heavier.
However, that doesn’t necessarily extend to 2024. My point previously, if you look back, is that the Bundeswehr had neglected their military for a long time, which significantly effects modernization efforts.
Yes, and as I’ve stated before:
Bundeswehr’s own data from years 2021 & 2022, what are you using, then? Because to say that most of their tanks aren’t even combat ready would require us to go back to the period between 2013 and 2015, which checks calender was a decade ago.
Granted, 2018 was a particularly bad year for the BW.
You have been constantly saying that Germany has better Readiness rates than even the US. If that isn’t what you mean, then it certainly came off that way.
They have achieved better rates in the recent years (in fact US rates for the F-35A have fallen, per GAO 2023 they’re below 65% now), yes:
For comparison, the Luftwaffe:
EUROFIGHTER in diesem Zeitraum halbiert. Die vorgesehenen Flugstundenziele der Luftwaffe konnten daher nicht vollständig erreicht werden. Die Luftwaffe arbeitet aber mit Nachdruck daran, die ursprüngliche Solllinie wieder zu erreichen. Gute Klarstandsraten beim EUROFIGHTER von im Wochenschnitt teils über 80 Prozent tragen dazu bei.
I haven’t been able to find individual rates for the Tornado or A-400M, but due to BMVG stating that the main & secondary systems have achieved 70 - 80%+ readiness rates, we can speculate that both of them contributed to such a high number. The average for USAF on the other hand would be sub-70%. Admittadely, they have a lot more aircraft to upkeep, but for the sake of the argument we’re having this can be ignored.
Since this is getting out of hand, I would really prefer if we returned this discussion to Israeli armor.
Fair.
