Where is american toptier Jet

Clean maybe sure, add fuel and those 16 missiles and be lucky to hit Mach 1.5.

Of course Gaijin do not model parasitic drag of suspended armaments (why should carrying enough missile for an average squadron have any draw backs!) So yeah it will probably rip to Mach 2.5

The current F-15E already outclimbs and out accelerates Typhoon why let realism get in the way of the game.

US mains are going to be really disappointed by how small a jump in Performance the F-22 is.

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With full burner it’s a hot rod of a jet, not that crazy

Not in combat load though, F-15s performance figures come from clean airframes it is how the US and Russia test their aircraft.

Aircraft in War thunder should have payload performance limitations added but they wont because Russia also likes to stick 14 missiles on a Su-35/30 and the game doesnt want to degrade their performance in anyway.

No combat loaded F-15 is doing Mach 2.5 and that includes at 65-70kft.

Every country does this

No combat loaded eurofighter should touch mach 2 as well lol

In fact an F-15 with at least fuselage AIM-7/120 should be able to push close to its top speed.

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I dont dispute that, Typhoons realistic envelope is just under mach 2.0 which it has achieved when carrying a standard A2A armament.

My issue is ass I said in game there is no degradation of performance, being it turn rate or top speed whether an aircraft carries 4 missiles or 14 missiles.
Gaijin will bury the Rafale and Typhoon when they release the F-15EX and Su-35S/SM whichever variants they go for.

There is, pylon drag is treated equally for all planes but missile themselves add weight and drag

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No, because pylon drag is modeled for no one. Everyone is overperforming in that specific area.

When you look at everything else though, it is the nonsense UFO eurocanards that are the real issue

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Typhoons flight model is a mess which you would know if you flew one.
The missiles it carries are the worst in game (at top tier) 120C and 9Ms
F-15E and GE and the F-15 Genocide all have 120D which is a far better missile for the style of play the Eurofighter wants.
F-15 out BVRs the Typhoon, Rafale kills in short to medium range and Su-30SM2 kills it at every range.

Maybe one day Gaijin will add the IIR missiles and give Typhoon a chance…or maybe even buff BOL

Whatever small advantage GNSS has in WT is negated by EFT being able to hold TWS at notch or near notch

You realize it is genuinely sad to call a modernized PW-220 eagle the F-15 genocide lol. At least wait for the EX 😂

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Wobblewobble

It’s not even the flight model, it’s just the the instructor seems to have gotten one too many whacks on the head when it comes to the rudder

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ive noticed on pretty much every fighter its very rudder heavy

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they do

they just dont model the drag of the pylons the missiles are on

Yep zero benefit to having recessed ejector pylons.

You whine about it now but when F-22’s can take 6 AIM-120D and 2 9X internal and you can only take 4 meteor without completely tanking your high speed performance, I bet you will have a change of heart

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No because the F-22 should beat a Typhoon, the F-15GE or EX should not and that is my point.
Britain will have the F-35 and maybe Su-57E

Why would it tank our high speed performance to be running 2x ASRAAM and 6x Meteors?

the deal was closed a long ago, might not come.

True, but then you see the 2 seater version. And India need a Gen 5 airframe…
So who knows.

Pylon drag, I’m saying that if he wants it so bad it would end up making the different between 4th and 5th generation flight performance even greater.

It’s fine how it is now because everyone is treated equally by it, and in the long run will smooth out transition to 5th gen

they refuse the deal due to the insane us made weapon in their fleet.

sanction could kill minimum 30% of their military.