The difference is it removes the uniqueness from Germany, its not really fair to not let them enjoy it for a while, sure id love to have the best spaa in warthunder and not use something that can barely be called a vehicle but id rather Sweden get something thats still unique to them thats decent without ruining what Germany already has.
Same even goes to the Buk, which yes Russia will probably get and probably shouldn’t go to Finland immediately. Its one of the reasons i suggested sweden get NASAM HML, its the completed model of SLAMRAAM which many US players were upset that sweden could even get because it would take away from their unique vehicle. Realistically sweden needs something that competes with current 12.0 but nothing really fits that.
IRIS-T SLM takes away from Germany.
NASAM HML lacks 9X making it less valuable for 12.0 especially given the performance of the FOX 3 missiles.
Buk M1 isn’t here so nothing to say other than same as with SLM.
RBS 23 is dated and a sidegrade to the Ito as aircraft simply fly out of site and require FnF munitions to handle.
Nomads, worse Elde but drivable.
Danish Skyranger would probably not be 12.0 worthy and more so a 11.3-11.7 additionally Germany would be upset given its a turret they created.
Realistically theres not much gaijin can do without making some community upset, imo the Elde should be removed like many French vehicles that simply dont work in warthunder and eventually replaced with a viable SPAA.
Gaijin wont fix the Elde, nor will they remove it. It will simply stay a unusable and worthless 420k rp sink to waste your rp on. Even if Gaijin removed it theres nothing they can feasibly add that wouldn’t make a group angry especially given the animosity people already have towards the swedish tree because of the Leos, additionally gaijin has yet to give Italy, Japan, Britian, and Russia a new SPAA to make them comparable to the SLM, and i can’t see them giving sweden a new spaa anytime soon.
Well i agree with you i grinded germany just for slm but gaijin really don’t care about uniqueness everyone have leopard now . Gripen was given to 3 nation while the country that made gripen was giving a glimpse version of it
Look ill say it im a sweden main (mainly because Danish stuff) but i was German before that, copy and paste isn’t that big of a deal imo but when a nation that created something doesn’t get it its a bit frustrating. Id rather gaijin occasionally let a nation keep their uniqueness for a while before giving ut to everyonem like the Fin 2A6 was a horrible thing because it was Germanys best MBT but now on sweden. Germany should’ve had multiple Leos by now that made them on par with sweden and Finland shouldve added the Fin 2A6 when Sweden needed it. Id much rather an actual TT patria over a Leo but whats done is done.
Again my main points are to try and find balance because i know the German players have animosity against sweden even though its not their fault its gaijins but i digress, i try to at least take the view of another group when i throw up suggestions if i can.
Again rn sweden might as well not even have an spaa given the Elde, but i dont want gaijin to take time to add something new and then leave the next nations in line to get an spaa with similar problems like the Elde.
Same even goes to the Buk, which yes Russia will probably get and probably shouldn’t go to Finland immediately
The TOR-M1 was also intended to be added to the USSR tree when it was added to the Chinese tree. It was mentioned by the devs during the dev stream, and i also believe it was mentioned on the forum.
However, the Pantsir was instead added and we’ve seen nothing about adding the TOR to the USSR tree since.
So either the Buk has a chance to be added to the Swedish tree through finland, or it gets replaced by a Western AA platform like the Patriot, NASAM HML (like you mentioned) or the more recently purchased IRIS-T SLM.
Same logic applies the KV-1A m1942 i assume they realized its already bot selling well and adding it to russia will just mean nobody buys it besides its not like they neeed it which is a bad thing to say i know.
As for RN i think theres a high chance Sweden doesn’t get a new spaa as gaijin believes the Elde is perfectly acceptable
