What is needed before the addition of 5th gens in 2026

Pl15 and meteor both are long range missiles. Their claim range is somewhat similar, but the meteor might have a better NEZ because it’s a jet engine with longer burn (so more turning capabilities at range) compared to the pl15. The pl15 will have an advantage in the seeker however until the new Meteor comes with AESA

My brotha, the F-22 can carry AIM-9Ms, not the F-35

More like after we have EW addet… radar jamming will be needed before the stealth.
But all of these require new ARB/SB mode (bigger maps etc…).

Also I think it will be heathier for the game if we dont get any new planes/missiles before the ARB/SB is reworked.

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Bigger maps and improved mission objectives are indeed needed, I would also love ew mechanics in-game.

Tranche 3A is enough imo, has AESA radar and all, above 14.0

Newer fulcrums like the 29M and 35S would be nice indeed, as well as the J-16. Others vehicles that wouldn’t be higher than 14.0 but would be nice are stuff like the Rafale M F.1, Typhoon block 5, F-16E, F-14D, Harrier GR.9, etc

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have you ever given thought about this?

what happens after that? there is literally nothing else to add after the 5th gen

Do you know how much is missing in the air trees?

yes i do, and i think 5th gen aircraft should NOT get added for a few more years
we should get more props and cold war jets instead
new gamemodes and maps
all of that would be much better than adding f-16 block 123123123 or su-12312313 w

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Yeah obviously it’s a better idea to slow down and not rush more advanced vehicles, I was just saying that it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Gaijin decided to keep rushing

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They shouldn’t add any aircraft to the game until big decompression happens. Any jet at any BR is just gonna suffer real bad unless they are OP for their BR.

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Some stuff left out of the list.
For Soviet aircraft

MiG-35
MiG-29KR
Su-30SM2

For weapons
R-37M it can be used on the Su-30SM2 and Su-35S and later the Su-57
R-77M is something only ever known to be used on the Su-57 so it probably won’t be added until 5th generation, instead they should add the R-27EA.

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Technically r-27ea never existed

Whats the alternative, not adding 5th gen fighters?

Cry more, let other people enjoy their modern fighters. You don’t have to play them and you wont even be bothered by them since they will get their own br bracket.

Almost certainly advanced 4.5 gens will be able to face them (f-15ex, su35, aesa typhoon, etc)

We need ecm

Yes, and I hope that ideally Gaijin add ASPJ to HELIs, ECM Pods/ASPJ and towed decoys to jets, with different jamming power based on the type of jammers.

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You say this based on absolutely nothing, it makes no sense having stealth fighters verse non stealth fighters, you simply cannot make this work without the game suffering heavily from unrealism and nerfs. Gen 5 will get their own br, and almost every nation will receive a F35 variant, or get some other aircraft. This will work just fine.

That’s what people said about second gen, third gen and fourth gen jets. Yet, they all face each other. It’s not going to change with 5th gen

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Gen 5 will get its own BR but gaijin with their characteristic stupidity and incompetence will ensure one of two things:

  1. Stealth will nerfed heavily making the addition of 5th pointless beyond cosmetic reasons
  2. Stealth will be as close to realistic as possible while also making sure they face 4+ gen fighters that will be at a severe disadvantage in BVR because as usual they’ll do fuck all to fix compression issues that have plagued the game for the last 3 years
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