Idk but it would make sense for it to have dual-pulse since it is being made to counter PL-15
Honestly, no idea. It’s just cope at this point.
The general mood for the US, from my POV is “whatever China does, try and do it better/more expensive”. Not too far fetched they’d choose dual pulse over just another bigger booster and muh software.
What’s with their aversion to ramjets anyway? 🤣
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Either it is due to cost or they wanted AIM-260 to fit inside F-22 and F-35, however second reason makes no sense considering meteor can fit into F-35’s IWB by clipping their wings
Its probably akin to the decision to go with the Aim-9X over the ASRAAM.
They have a lot of time, money, resources, etc etc sunk into developing Dual-pulse motors and dont want to pivot to ramjet.
I mean the us hasnt really copied china yet(navy should take some tips) not enough time has passed, aim120d ingame is nothing like real life, it might have ballmark kinematic range right but thats likely it. Aim120d-3 seems to be well liked and the aim120 platform seems to still be seen very favourably despite its age, so much so that RTX is still investing their own money on internal projects for upgrades to the missile.
or buffing late model AIM-120’s. the D should be added more widely and the D-3 should become US exclusive for everything else and only on F-35’s for other trees
form factor, cost, complexity, weight, and who knows maybe the latest dual pulse rockets are more favorable for an AMRAAM type missile than the latest ramjets. there is still the USAF’s other long range missile program which is still getting funded quietly, maybe it will use a ramjet
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This is fine, most other nations will get Meteor at the same time
that would not be good for balance. you cant bring that many meteor on EFT or Rafale though thankfully
maybe
but might be something even more interesting like rotary detonation
or just a really big solid rocket with a bunch of pulses
F-15E Mach climb to 10km (~1:17min):
EFT Mach climb to 10km (~1:20min):
Rafale Mach climb to 10km (~1:19min):
So among the 3, they’re all roughly tied for time required to mach climb to 10km (plus minus a bit for human error on each). Nothing that’d really make any sort of difference in a match.
Its also just about tied with the F-15E in a race from M1.0 → M2.0 @ 10km (the EFT isnt even competing due to its abysmal in-game thrust curve compared to basically all other “M2.0 capable” top tier jets)
F-15E M1.0 -> M2.0 @10km alt (~1:19s):
EFT M1.0 -> M2.0 @10km alt (~1:52s):
Rafale M1.0 -> M2.0 @10km alt (~1:21s):
Oh wait…
Rafale matches or exceeds the other 2 while missing 4 performance mods that affect climb rate and acceleration…
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Half gajin half the war thunder community that request nerf
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Why wouldn’t it be? Only GB, Germany, Italy and Sweden would get Meteor as it is clearly a 14.7+ missile and not 13.7, so Gripen C’s or 14.3 Captor-M Eurofighters shouldn’t get it even though they can for balance sake.
GB/Italy can carry 6 Meteor, France 4 and Sweden 7.
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Something like this was what I was looking for initially, but luckily Alpha ended up providing the evidence as well.
It would be interesting to see if actually carrying anything more than 2 Meteors would be useful.
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thats a missile to give to eurocanards for assymetric balancing against gen 5’s once they come
On a Rafale not really worth it to carry 4, its main weakness rn is the lack of any consistent BVR capability which the Meteor could fix. 2 is more than enough with 6x MICA EM/IR elsewhere
JAS39E you can certainly make it work with 3 Meteor underbelly and the rest be IRIS-T/AIM-120B
Eurofighter with full Meteor loadout is clearly for early game hunting. The more missiles out the better.
Uh huh, 5th gen just initially being .3 BR above the rest of 4-4.5 gen xD, 14.3 being uptiered will be brutal
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That much? Damn I’m kinda surprised.
Spoiler
Tf is this🥲
No compressor no engine mod, the hell.
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Thats what happens when Gaijin tries to match flight charts with stupid calculations.
It ends up bein overperforming significantly at certain regimes, same goes for most planes actually.
buff aim120 pull from the rail would do a LOT
You will get the same mid missile in even larger amounts on a new plane and you will be happy