What can save American top tier air?

F-15EX with AIM-120D, BOLS, and EPAWSS with all its feature against current lineup of planes would contend for best plane in the game.(AIM-9X not even needed)

EPAWSS is datalinked to the plane map and can show the exact position of the radar threat on the map, which would be very interesting to have. AIM-120D with MICA level seeker(if not better) and a much larger non-escape-zone would be an absolute menace on a F-15E airframe.

Having played the F-15C GE quite a bit in sim during the event, it’s hard to realize just how much slower the F-15C is compared to the E until you jump again in the E. The E can cruise and fight at mach 1.6-1.8 easy while the F-15C struggles to stay at mach 1.5 during fights and will find itself more often than not at mach 1.2 or so.

Problem is that everybody’s going to get new missiles next patch apparently. So it’ll just be the same as before. Better airframes than the EX firing equivalent/better missiles.

EPAWSS might be good if gaijin implements it properly. Will gaijin do that though? Also does f15ex have maws i could not find any concreate info about that. As for aim 120d if not messed up will definitely be good however Eurofighter would still have it which has a better FM than f15, it would also have meteor. I still don’t understand how would it be any better than current planes in game. It would also have lower scan area then jets such as SU-30 SM2 and Eurofighter.

The F5c Is the second best 10.7 aircraft second only to the J-7D its insane and br for br one of the greatest planes in the game, I don’t think I’ve ever met someone who struggles to get kills in the f5c even with the later much higher br models.

Probably not. Pretty much only Russian vehicles get new gimmick features like that. EX might retroactively get it if a Russian plane has it in the future.

Certain export EX have it, US EX don’t. The MAWS emplacement is there on the airframe but empty. USAF judged, rightfully, that MAWS wasn’t necessary considering the EX is supposed to be a missile bus throwing a wall of missiles from far away with the help of stealthy F-35s providing datalink to said missiles. A premium ECM suite like EPAWSS is worth a lot more than an expensive MAWS in today’s world, especially in that role. To be frank, dogfights have been dead for decades, and it’s only getting worse as years go by. You’re not getting in range of a F-15EX to make MAWS matter before dying to a AIM-120D.

It would be better because of a mix of high missile capacity, AIM-120D, and fast airframe to dance around. Eurofighter with meteor would make the F-15EX with AIM-120D DOA though, for sure.

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They messed up AIM 120C so i fully expect them to mess AIM-120D. I bet that it would be one of the worst missile added along with next gen missile unless they also nerf meteors by alot. Anyways i hope AIM-260 enters service as soon as possible

Kill what? F4E, F4F, F104,MIG21? ohh you mean AV8. A10 and su25.
Bring the best player in the world in there and try shoot my MIG21BIS/SMT down with F5C/E until out of fuel.
The F-5E at 11.0 has no way to defeat a MiG-21 SMT at 10.3 if the MiG-21 pilot knows what he’s doing. The F-5’s advantage only comes from the opponent’s lack of skill.

I kind of want them to add a fully-kitted F-22 just to watch US mains on the forums climb over each other to argue that it isnt that op and you just have to use 2 brain cells to avoid their missiles.

I’m not going to lie, the best player in the world would clown on you in an F-5 you are not him. But anyways the F-5 is easily able to kill everything at its own br? I mean literally only the J-7D opposes it but it has its own niche scenarios in which it can turn that fight in its favor quickly, not to mention the BIS is a piss poor example as it you know it basically an all around better fighter and is pretty much top dog at its br. That’d be like me telling you the BIS is trash and only gets kills on stupid players because its no match for my J-7E. Also I’m not one to do this but you are a walking contradiction you literally have twice the stats in your F5C than any of your migs so it can’t be that bad.

well, best play make his plane faster!

im not even have F5C???

F-22 armed with the AIM-120C5 as it is in game right now wouldn’t even be that OP against the Rafale and Su-30SM2. It would have some advantages over them but MICA would still be crazy good and Su-30SM2 would still be able to guide and fully notch at the same time.

Hell, it would be more balanced than the F-15C GE and especially the massively struggling F-18E

No plane can really save it without better missiles. Amraams nerf is the problem of US top tier

That’s not really true, longer matches=better rewards.

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Do you mean if the mig-21 runs away? Or in a dog fight?

gaijin has shown they hate america till we get fair mods america is dead
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/NS4q2qoLZddN

but theyll buff Sukhois and J11s which is historical but americas was denied

I’d say the F-15EX? It would still be reasonably subpar on dogfights, yet AESA + F-15E thrust + HMS + F-15C GE loadout at the very least should be both a nasty and competitive enough kit.

And… it should’ve arrived already?

With how bad AMRAAMS are it won’t be any good.

the only thing thats worse than the ammaram is the AIM-54 which also underperforms massively

AIM-54 sure is worse than AMRAAMS but i am not considering it as it would not be added to any other US plane. Maybe the super tomcat might get it but no other plane can get it

While they’re certainly not great nor as meta as the MICA or the R-77-1, the A/B variants are still a decent missile… it’s just they don’t have a consistent edge either MICA (TVC + notch gate width) or R-77-1 (Overload + speed) have.

Gaijin could give its historical turn performance to make AIM-120s competitive again as a general-purpose missile, just as it was on day-one Seek and Destroy update, but it’s up to them anyway.

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More RP, yeah, but 15/20 mins trying to find the last 2 hide and seek players is boring AF, it’s usually too far to RTB and switch to A2G and make it back to bomb bases or ground units and there is an event and SL boxes on and nether SL or score are affected much by match time, especially when that time is spent flying in circles looking for the last few targets.
I would rather just do the 2 or 3 regular matches you can do in the same amount of time.