If Gaijin wants to be accurate, they should equip the Re.2005 MM.495 VDM with the DB 605 A-1 engine. Additionally, they could include the performance data of the DB 605 AM, since the Germans modified the DB 605 A-1 by adding MW-50 water–methanol injection and changed the compression ratio.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eui3zudYm58C
If you think about it, if Gaijin keeps the Re.2005 MM.495 VDM the same — or even worse — than the regular Re.2005 Serie 0, then there’s no reason to grind the battle pass for the Re.2005. It would just be a waste of time.
There are only 4 vehicles in a BP battle trophy, they are listed in the post: T55E1, Toldi IIA, Sd.Kfz.251/22, Ikv 73.
Your bug report is closed. They need book pages and cover attached to the bug report.
Only one of those vehicles is trash too, the other 3 are super good imo
The only one of them I have experience with is the T55E1 but it is essentially a hellcat at a much lower BR and even faster.
I want the T55E1 so badly, the Toldi is also really good and the halftrack with the 75 is a momster the IKV is pretty sad all around. 68pen at 2.7 lol
For real…
Modeling it this way is just against their own interests. I really can’t understand why they did it.
I have already seen many people saying they aren’t interested in buying the battle pass because the plane is quite bad and not different from the tech tree one. Please Gaijin for our and YOUR OWN good, fix the model!
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CQMp8ULAnVQY
RE 2005 – MM 495
This morning in Guidonia, Col. Tondi carried out a first climb and speed test with the old propeller; tomorrow morning a second test will be conducted with the Macchi propeller fitted with German blades.
On May 5, 1943, while the Experimental Center continued the construction of the “zero” series aircraft (six of which had already made their first flights), a request arrived from the Ministry to install a landing light on the left wing of the RE 2005. In a letter dated June 25, signed by Technical Director Eng. Arnaldo Vischi and Procurator Eng. Giuseppe Bonomi, Reggiane informed the Ministry that on the 21st of the same month they had delivered to Lt. Col. Ercolani the drawings related to the installation, and that they were awaiting instructions to know from which aircraft the mounting should begin.
With a telegram dated August 4, 1943, the Ministry asked Costaereo “to arrange that the first Sagittario complete with the landing light installation be transported to Guidonia for inspection.”
On the second prototype of the aircraft (MM 495), the engine was replaced (as requested on April 12, 1943, by the Air Force General Staff). The aircraft, equipped with a special German engine and propeller, made its first flight on June 10, 1943. This modification had also been urged by the German authorities, who were interested in conducting tests on that aircraft. In the Reggiane flight log, next to that flight, it is noted: “First factory flight after engine replacement.”
In fact, the RE 2005 – MM 495 had made its first flight at the end of October 1942, with a standard engine and propeller, before being sent to Guidonia for tests, where it failed to demonstrate its full potential due to engine troubles. In March 1943, still at Guidonia, the aircraft also carried out tests with a propeller equipped with German blades.
In addition to the 25-minute flight of June 10, the MM 495 took off from Reggio five more times, piloted by De Prato: on June 28 (20 minutes), on July 2 (twice, for engine pressure recovery tests—15 and 20 minutes), and on July 9 and 12, for 20 and 15 minutes respectively.
This example was fitted with an original German DB 605-A1 engine, with a different compression ratio, an MW system for water and alcohol injection, and an original German VDM propeller.
The test results were astonishing, and all the performance figures obtained from the first prototype were improved. During these tests, a German pilot assured us that the airspeed indicator needle had reached 720 km/h in level flight
Thank you for your help but gijin decided to not pass the bug report, they need multiple sources.
This is something I wrote on the Italian discord community of war thunder
"I think asking for sources like manuals, blueprints, and multiple documents showing the same thing for a World War II plane that was given to the Germans for testing, later modified(not only the propeller), and then disappeared within the German Reich—where it fought until the end of the war—is crazy and asking for too much.
There are two books that discuss the engine modifications, as well as test pilots who talked about how much better it was than the original version.
Beyond that, you can’t find anything else.
This battle pass is going to be a waste of time, why would anyone grinde a plane that is worse than the Tech Tree variant
And the name doesn’t make sense, because it was the Re.2005 MM.495 that was modified with a new engine, a new propeller, and an inverted throttle—because the Germans wanted it that way.
There is no re.2005 named VDM"
I completely agree. As I wrote in my bug report, there are no manufacturer manuals for a one-off modification like this. The only available sources are books, and among them, the only truly comprehensive work — which has already been accepted as valid evidence in other issues — is Giovi’s series of volumes.
See, for example, the case of the Re.2002. Community Bug Reporting System
Indeed, the name “VDM” is an invention that originated here on the forum; the actual serial number is MM.495. However, this is irrelevant — after all, there’s no such thing as a “Tornado IDS 1995” either; the correct designation would be RET.3. So the naming issue is really insignificant.
What I suggest is focusing on secondary sources, just like they mentioned in the reply to your post. Even in this book — which I only have in a physical copy at home — the same data cited by Giovi is reported. I caccia Caproni reggiane 1938-1945. The Caproni Reggiane Fighters. Author: Prato,Piero.
Publisher: Intyrama.
Date of publ.: 1968.
Details: cm.20,5x30, pp.64 illustrato bn. fascicolo spillato, copertina figurata. Collana Intyrama.
I will submit this evening
Lmao, if they actually release a half assed not researched at all main BP vehicle like they did with sholef again (and refuse to fix it despite being provided with pretty much only available sources, also like they did with sholef) then it will only show how much do they care (or actually don’t) about battle passes anymore.
It’s laughable how bad all of the recent BP vehicles (maybe aside of the WZ-141 ig) have been.
Either copypaste like Kungstiger or M46, gimmick vehicles like that german bomber or completely butchered slop like Sholef and possibly new Re 2005
It’s actually not just the BP.
It’s basically all events for the past…id’ say 1.5 years. The last GOOD BP was like 2 years ago.
The only thing that gaijin tends to actually research and implement correctly are 50-80$ packs. And they are the only unique thing.
Almost all event rewards are strait clones.
I mean there were at least some pretty unique event vehicles that just aren’t very good like Firos, EFV or KV-7, while BPs were straight up garbage for the last 2 years or so.
Ever since the Sheridan 76 the best thing we got was the chinese Wz 141 and it’s not a great tank at all.
Meanwhile back in the day every single BP brought in at the very least 2, possibly 3 (no one really ever cared about ships) very interesting and unique vehicles to the game, quite possibly very good as well. Many of them are sought after to this day.
It’s just sad how bad this event got. I used to be excited and wait for every single new BP, because i knew it was going to be something cool. Now on the other hand i can’t be bothered anymore and i am genuinely surprised if it’s not straight up copypaste.
I haven’t bought a single Battle Pass since the Kungstiger and i am not doing that unless they actually start putting back any effort into them just like they used to.
If you want you can take my bug report and merge it with your bug report and if you need the book(Sergio Govi re.2002 re2005) in digital form I can send it to you.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eui3zudYm58C
I have the book “i Reggiane dall’A alla Z” too if you need it
Ciao, see the Private Message.
Another source added
Aircraft Profile No. 244: Caproni Reggiane Re.2001 Falco II, Re.2002 Ariete & Re.2005 Sagittario** *by John F. Brindley, pages 236–237.
Reggiane Fighters in Action Nro 177
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It’s very nice to see new evidence. I hope this time it will be enough… otherwise we’d have to storm whatever company inherited the Reggiane archive (if it wasn’t destroyed :,( )
Thank you
Unfortunately no dev or moderator or any are taking care of this matter.
Please support the report
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/CQMp8ULAnVQY
