Now I hope Gaijin can get them all moved to 7.7.
Halving their fuel load means they 100% should be 7.7 now.
They didn’t even copy-paste the reworked one, but the old one…
Specially funny when the CR3 model already existed; as I show on the report, it was made and implemented… only to then be reverted and remain like that to this day xD.
At least they could copy-paste the reworked one or something, if finding the correct model is so difficult…
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It hasn’t even been enough time for the firebirds vehicle to lose their new vehicle banners lol
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I saw a screenshot this morning that it flies as intended
So it’s unreliable
Location and mission updates
- In Ground Battles locations, old concrete airfields have been replaced with new ones.
- Air Realistic and Air Arcade Battles:
- Tickets for ground vehicles are deducted from the team only if the vehicle is destroyed by a player. If the ground vehicle is destroyed by bots, victory points are not deducted.
- AI attackers (that appear 4 minutes into the session) now prefer to attack tanks (leaving easier targets for players) rather than attacking everything indiscriminately as before.
- The death of an AI attacker now takes away victory points only if it was destroyed by a player. Death by anti-aircraft guns, crashing into the ground or being shot down by a bot does not affect victory points anymore.
thanks for this, it’s about time, the best change ever
Problem is that Gaijin completely fails at balancing vehicles like they have for 10 years, they have systems in place, questionable ones, to uptier vehicles, but downtiering vehicles almost never happens, vehicles just stop being played and the vehicle continues to perform with a few players.
No one plays the 163’s and this is only going to make it worse.
Anyone with a even the basic ability for critical thinking would come to the conclusion that a vehicle with 5 players cannot be treated in the exact same way as one with 5000 players, this is what has screwed minor nations for over a decade, but Gaijin in their infinite wisdom will do exactly that, as long as the performance remains within their parameters, it will not move.
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This might actually be the worst update of the year. To say it was rushed feels like a bit of an understatement. And it feels so lackluster.
Still dont understand the decision to not include an airframe that neither added or subtracted to the meta. Why did only one airframe get an AESA radar? Why not the F-15C MSIP? The M44 became the poster child for copy and paste. The US got a worse premium HSTV-L with incorrect stats like its reload rate. The SPAA scene is still wildly unbalanced and what was the point of BVVD admiting thay CAS was getting too powerful only to double down on CAS? Was that just lip service?
The sheer amount of bugs from a dev team with how much experience? And even if soms bugs are unavoidable, this update is so undercooked its still cold in parts.
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The best chance is to ask for it during the next BR changes, but they won’t be moved sadly.
They didn’t move the 2S38, they didn’t move the Char25T, and now they won’t move the Me-163/Ki-200. They take their stats at face value and nothing else.
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Tons of vehicles they didn’t move, the Kugel is also still at 7.0 for god knows what reason.
It’s rather sad and pathetic that a company that relies on statistics to run their entire game, doesn’t have an understanding of statistics beyond a primary school level after a decade of doing so.
But even if they were semi-competent, it’s a lost cause either way as they believe fun is presented in numbers and statistics and not in gameplay, they cannot fathom the idea that even when stats show a 50/50 balance it can still be a miserable game experience.
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The uptiering system is a particular pain regarding this. Its just not fun when you are almost always uptiered against a 6.7 Tiger II P/H in a 5.7 M4A3 (76) or Jumbo 75. And some Gaijin stan will say “skill issue” and “flank him” or whatever, and to a certain extent; yes. Tactics matter. But it gets old when it happens so often.
And at whose feet do we lay the blame here too? Do the developers truly not care? How often do community managers bring reoccuring frustrations with the player base up to the devs? Seeing BVVD answer questions I dont see anyone asking baffles me. Apologies to our navy breathern here but I am willing to be money the amount of players asking for counters or equals to the Pantsir dramactically outnumbers players asking for newer, more modern ships by a wide margin. Two years to untouched by any other nation is long enough.
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There does need to be uptier protection, playing at 9.3 it’s a guaranteed uptier, statistics also show this but they simply do not care, it’s miserable to endlessly be uptiered and it’s not how vehicles are balanced, so why they ignore these things is beyond me.
The obvious blatant issue as well is compression, we need BR 15- BR 16 yet we’re at 12.0 for ground but 14.0 for air… they play together… why is there not BR 14 for ground then at the very least?
Over the years it just has gotten worse, the Tiger ll P ended up next to the Tiger ll H after decompression… I mean what the actual hell is that?
The fact Gaijin refuses to spend time on this forum is telling enough, even when they do answer questions once in a blue moon they only talk about their statistics which still shows they do not care one bit about player complaints unless it conveniently overlaps with what their data shows so they can spin it as ‘‘we’re listening’’.
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I just want to say that I am VERY GLAD that the German Eurofighter comes with AIM-9L/I-1.
It was underwhelming to think that the German EF would have worse missiles (L/I does not have a smokeless motor); but, with L/I-1, it has the same smokeless motor as AIMñ9M, making it, effectively, a renamed M!
I hope this is intentional and permanent.
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No. They lowered rank, thus lowered requirements to get the camo. After your first battle the client updated and you recieved new camo.
xD I already disliked them before, because it would practically be against Mig 15 24/7 and there is nothing you can do against Mig 15 if its pilot isn’t braindead.
Who would play them now lol? Perhaps only in custom battles haha. Maybe they could make them 7.3 to fit my lineup, I would play them there and only there.
Well, but it keeps accruing RP ;-) after every match it opens the research panel of the Ostwind II although playing Israel
3 minutes of fuel is diabolic, for a plane that already struggled, based on a report from a mere month ago that just posts a document that seems to have a lot of assumptions and was instantly accepted.
Yet they don’t fix stuff that has very clear evidence to support it such as the Pzh2000 reload, lots of stuff about the RDF/LT, the Mig-29s flight model, and a bunch of other incorrect things.
Don’t forget about the loop you can get into: make bug report>told to make a suggestion>suggestion denied for no reason>repeat.
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The Mig-23ML is in no tech tree in War Thunder.
Those Tigers aren’t either.
That T-80UD is not in any tech tree.
Also $80 isn’t for the Tiger 2, it’s for a new rank of premiums you’re not forced to purchase.
@An_Pigeon
The Hunter in France has F1 wings with an F6 engine.
F-16A [with 9Ms and pylon countermeasure pods] and F-16AM are in no other tech tree in War Thunder.
Leopard 2A5NL and 2A6NL are in no other tech tree in War Thunder. [Finland’s 2A6 isn’t the 2A6NL, check its orange camo as it’s likely still bugged.]
FGR2 IRL also fired AIM-9Gs.
What differentiates it from the MLA?
It’s still a tiger with some (cool) stuff stuck on it.
They are. Just because the model is different, doesn’t mean they aren’t copy and paste.
Plus, it’s better to have copy+paste premiums than lock unique stuff behind events/a paywall.
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