Legit could buy a MiG-25 and the Arena for that money, or a MiG-25 and KV-220
Choice is rather poor for me. I would like to get jet which is good at grb / gsb / asb ground strike. Su39 is probably best candidate for this but there is no discount for it. Su25 has horrid rwr, no good optics to guide kh29/kh25 and is subsonic. Mirage, f4s, j7d have no good a2g ordnance. Hawk 209 only has 2 ir mavericks which arent guaranteed kills even. Bison has just 2 kab500krs. Netz and f20 are both meh because agm65b are joke at 11.7 and 12.0. German su22m4 seems good because it has 2 kh29t and 2 kh25ml which you can guide via kh29t tv screen. But thats all, only 4 instagib agms on airframe which overheats a lot if you use afterburner. And rwr is horrid.
1 Like
The only vic thats worth buying in the whole sale is the J7D. Quite the achievment
No BMPT-72 was a good call imo, but the only vehicle I was interested in (T58) isn’t on sale so this will be a skip from me.
I genuinely don’t understand why Gaijin stopped putting all packs on sale like they used to (Exception being the BMPT, obviously)
Got the F-4S, via Klarna, WT said the purchase went through, Klarna said it to, but I have not gotten the email of conformation yet… and it is not in my purchase history on the shop… I hope I still got the aircraft… should I be worrying?
Some of our game services are currently experiencing instability. You may run into issues signing in to your account, connecting to matches, and viewing in-game purchases. Our team is already working on resolving the problem.
Restart your game or refresh your game every so often to check, If it isn’t resolved by the time the problems are fixed then contact support.
As i wrote this, it seems to have been fixed. So restart your game. If not go into your purchase history via your war thunder profile to double check, Then contact support.
Hope so I just saw I have order the pack 3 times because of I thought I did not work… I have sent a ticket that I accidentally order duplicates… hope I can get that fixed… darn now I am stressed and was having a good day and now this mess…
Still no F-4S Klarnas pay later have confirm the transaction but still confirmation email from Gaijin, and need to wait probably a week for the ticket about the extra two I didn’t want but got because of confirmation problems leading me to believe the transaction failed, this is stress inducing AF
1 Like
Ariete Certezza why is not discounted? this vehicle added in 2025 march… no noly vehicles last two update no discount??
Same issue. Klarna says it’s confirmed, gaijin store said payment completed but I never received an email confirmation or the goods and the purchase is missing in my store history. Made a ticket but now just waiting
1 Like
At least you didn’t order it two more times because you thought it didn’t work the time
I have now gotten my F-4S, yay now I just need to wait for gaijin support to cancel the other two I order like a idiot -_-
+1 I have both. Su-39 is superb. And its radar is actually very useful to get early locks with the R-73’s (and R-60M’s, but they really do not lock very far in all aspect. The R-73’s can lock up to 5km+ head on.) Also, not only does the Su-39 have built in optics but they are excellent, nice wide field of view. Not as good as late model targeting pods, but vastly superior to stuff like the MiG-27K’s built in targeting.
IF you play night battles in GRB, you “can” take in the Su-39’s Mercury Targeting Pod, it is only NVD, buuut it’s one of those kinda sort of NVD+semi TVD RU ones. Kind of similar to the BMP-2M’s commander NVD. Blueish instead of pure green.
Still not extremely useful for night battles, but better than nothing. Last note there too, if you do use it in night battles, do NOT try to use the TV guided munitions, they will never lock. Have to use laser only for real night battles. You can make a specific loadout or two for night battles with the targeting pod and laser munitions.
For day battles though, use the radar pod 100% of the time. I usually set it to TWS, normal or headon, depending. Then use ACM to pre lock the IR missiles. And change the ACM lock pattern to the super vertical one to get locks while you are turning. Very useful, and the R-73’s can pull hard so the can take advantage of those very off bore locks.
Oh! You might look at using the Su-24M in the meantime. Fairly good targeting pod as well, some guided munitions. Su-39 is probably better, but wanted to mention that plane too.
Also also, the Su-25T, but it does not have the radar pod. Still serviceable though. It still has the IRCM module in the rear like the Su-39.
RWR/MAW:
Forgot to talk about these some more. So, the Su-39’s is pretty good, the Su-24’s is awesome and it has MAW to auto dump countermeasures if you want. I usually leave it on until someone starts firing at me, then turn it off so the MAW doesn’t dump everything.
One slight downside to the Su-24M is it can only detect up to I band radar, while the Su-39 and Su-25T can detect up to J band.
The only other plane in the Ru tree with MAW is the Su-25SM3, and that one gets the Kh-38MT’s, so you can actually use them in night battles. And the Su-25SM3’s RWR can detect up to L band radar, so it can actually tell if it is getting targeted by a Pantsir 😉 Obviously that shouldn’t really happen in a GRB match, buuuuut it is still possible, and you will be notified.
1 Like
Sucks that Ill have to wait for another discounts to buy su39. Or buy su25k now and rush su25t/su24m/mig27k in air sim. Or buy german su17m4 as dollar store “here and now” solution. But the fact its german 11.0 brings few disadvantages like big chance of uptiers to bmpt hordes and facing soviet spaas of all sorts from strela to even pantsir s1. Tough choice.
Yeah, I feel you. So, it looks like you play RB almost exclusively, but I would suggest you consider doing air arcade if you wish to use the Su-25K to grind some of the air tree. Strike planes get the same fast in air ordinance reloads as bombers in arcade. So, you would be able to keep ground pounding over and over with it, as compared to RB where not only are you slow as heck and might not even have enough time to blow anything up. Most of your time will be spent flying out and back to rearm. Boooooorrrrriiinnngggg. Think about it, because I do not think it is a fun time to try and grind the Ru air tree with an Su-25K in ARB.
GRB:
It is ok in GRB IF you are capping your GRB lineup to 10.0 Past that and it’s still ok ish, but it falls off above 10.7-11.3 for sure. I would not even attempt to use any of its guided munitions, the field of view is so small you will get wiped by SPAA’s. Use the S-25O’s. (You COULD try to maybe use the Kh-25ML’s as they are mach 2.0, but I am just not good with its narrow targeting view, and very low zoom.) Has ballistic computers for everything: Bombs, Rockets, and cannons. Everything is quite easy to control and aim, even in RB. Its combat flaps are usable at quite a “fast” speed, relative to its max speed.
Imo, either Air Arcade, or GRB with the Su-25K. You should give StatShark a look for ARB stats, ̶I̶ ̶a̶m̶ ̶p̶r̶e̶t̶t̶y̶ ̶s̶u̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶g̶r̶e̶a̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶ ̶w̶i̶s̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶A̶R̶B̶ ̶e̶i̶t̶h̶e̶r̶.̶
EDIT: I take that back, its stats are actually ok/good in ARB on StatShark for 10.3 BR. You would have to decide for yourself. Check stats for the most recent month (March), set to Realistic, set to Aircraft, click on 10.3 left side to filter down to only 10.3 planes in ARB. Sort by Win Rate, SL per Game, or RP per Game. Those are the most useful sortings to compare Premium Vehicles imo: StatShark - See All Player, Missile, and Vehicle Statistics
Air Arcade:
Personally, I find it quite good/fun in Air Arcade. Lots of countermeasures, good IR missiles for its BR. Can take in a couple extra gun pods, wonderful for ground pounding and ripping people trying to head on you.
I use one of these presets for Arcade. Either 6x S-25O’s, or 6x S-13OF pods. Can mix and match, but it gets kind of funky mixing them as their aims are a little different. Easier to keep them consistent so you don’t miss a bunch of shots when one runs out.
Ignore all the other rockets. S-25O’s or S-13OF pods are superior to everything else.
Bombs/napalm are meh in Arcade, as you have to get so much closer, the rockets are easier and allow you to stay more nimble. No, cant really do bases with the rockets, but you are slow, hardly get a chance to get to the bases anyway lol.
ARB:
For ARB you could use bombs OR its Napalms. It should only take 2x napalms to destroy a base (in ARB, takes 2x as many in AAB.) You could take 4 napalms and take out 2 bases, and still take rockets and gunpods.
These would be my loadout suggestions for the Su-25K in ARB. 2x napalms for 1 base, 4x napalms for 2 bases. Keep the gun pods closest for better aim, missiles next for reduced spread, bombs on the outside as far out as possible. (Or use the rocket presets shown above. Again imo ignore bombs. They are heavy, slow you down, and are “only” 500kg’s, you have to aim well to pop ground units. Rockets are easier.)
L-39ZA Albatros
Another option would be the L-39ZA Albatros. It does not have any ballistic computers, but it is near the top of the StatShark rankings for RP’s and SL’s per match for 6.7 ARB. You would have to be competent with dropping bombs/using rockets without assistance. If you did go that route, it would be able to grind up to Rank 6 at maximum efficiency, and then you could start using the Su-25BM (again if you have it.)
OH! Do you actually have the Su-25BM?! That thing is good for GRB! It will not grind down to Tier 1 at good efficiency, but if you are just looking for a CAS plane for GRB, that one is quite good!
I saw it in your game history on StatShark, let me know if you do actually own it, and it wasn’t just a test drive or something.
It sits at 10.7 BR in GRB. It has the Kh-29TE’s like the Su-25T and Su-39, very good TV guided missile. No need to mess with laser, totally fire and forget. Works quite well in 3rd person, imo don’t even bother trying to use them in the low zoom optics.
Downsides: it just does not have the good targeting optics like they do. It also does not have the IRCM pod, but eh, it’s a lot lower in GRB. Also does not have the Vhikrs, but I don’t find them that great personally. Some people do great with them, but not me.
Then, it has a BOATLOAD of countermeasures, 256.
Yes I do have su25bm but as you said, it cant grind tech tree efficiently. So I just bought su25k. Seems to do its job fine with s25o and spaa situation is not as bad as I expected (expected five hundred autocannon spaa sitting in every corner of map and sniping me). Thanks for advices!
1 Like