War Thunder "Firebirds" - Changelog

The way they do it now. We’ll just end up with a stack of TTs containing pretty much the same vehicles. What’s the fun in that?

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This is a pie chart for my Visegrad tech tree btw, it includes Hungary as well
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If they actually find enough vehicles in order to remove copypaste step by step, sure they can keep lower ranks. But i just doubt there is enough vehicles to do that.

Either way, this copypaste should be removed. Either as removal of entire Ranks from tree, or as step by step removal of copypaste vehicles and replacing them with domestic stuff

I think it’s more insane to remove a entire region of a tech tree because you think it’s C&P, we’ve had issues in the past with removal of tech tree vehicles and this being due to newer players being unable to get them after removal and by doing this you’d be making the issue worse ten fold.

Instead, you could also combine those braincells of yours to use and maybe introduce new and unique vehicles which have been suggested before, this would avoid the issue of removal whilst keeping low tier semi-unique like the British tech tree.

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I get copy-paste is sometimes necessary to fill gaps, and I don’t mind the occassional copy-pastes of vehicles a nation operated when it’s necessary and/or adds to a nation by contributing to its lineups… but when +80% of 4x whole Ranks is copy-paste, well… I just don’t think it’s worth it, hahah.

So, for the 3rd time today I’m in a match where only the bombers on each side can spawn. This time one side has 4 bombers while the other has 8, and the remaining 20 players only get to watch. Anybody else has a similar experience?

It’s not how it works. Previous removals were problematic because vehicles being removed were unique. You can’t get access to them in any other tree, so they are permanently locked from new players. You don’t lose anything by not being able to play a chinese sherman, while you can research one in any other nation.

I would agree if there was anything unique being removed, but there isn’t.

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You may notice that many low-rank suggestion vehicles for China are named after foreign vehicles, but are actually unique to China, or modified by Chinese army. Looking over the list quickly is only inviting to prejudice and confirmation bias.

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Why is enemy markers detection not shared among teammates in Air Realistic battle? I scrolled through the entire changelog details and did not find any reference. Is this a bug?

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This doesn’t give aircraft MAWS?

It’s not how it works. Previous removals were problematic because vehicles being removed were unique

Nyet comrade, you’ve overlooked the fact that these vehicles also build line-ups and this is pretty crucial for China as its only a three line tech tree for Ground. Line-ups are what make or break a nation unless you’re playing Air RB and then I’d possibly agree with you but this isn’t the case.

This is a major issue for China, go look at 7.3 and name me more than 3 ground vehicles which sit at that BR (oh wait, you can’t).

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That very much depends on what do you count as Original and which vehicles belong to this group, since some vehicles regardless of being unique offer nothing new gameplaywise to the game. Great example being recently added Boxer.

Also Hungary is already part of Italian tree so it is out of the question for the most part

Osa AKM for italy cost 300k RP and 830 K SL
For russia 260k RP and 710 K SL
And for what i can see they are the same vehicle. WTF gaijin?

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Common statement, Italy was in Germany as well, yes they only had planes in rank 1 and 2, but it show’s that Hungary could be moved, besides it looks like the Italian tech tree is warming up to the idea of Romania being in it.

Turn off awards?

If your country has so few unique vehicles that you need to make lineups solely out of copypaste stuff, it kinda doesn’t matter.

If these vehicles were ther to suppliment existing chinese vehicles making up like less than 50% of chinese Rank I-IV it would be fine. But it is well over 80%. At this point it is not even chinese tree at lower tiers.

I think this is more than great enough!

I wouldn’t consider a vehicle copy-paste as long as it is even minimally different in any way. I only call copy-paste to literal copy-pastes, hahah. Any kind of gameplay-wise significant domestic modification nullifies that category in my opinion.

For example; I don’t consider M4 Composite to be a copy-paste, even if it’s yet another Sherman, because it’s still unique and exclusive.

Italy had like 10 vehicles back then, all at extremely low ranks. Hungary has a whole ground and air branch. It is entirely different story, especially considering this branch is crucial for functioning of this tree

Romania has some cool and unique vehicles like their TR-85 if I recall, I’d be more than happy to see Romania being added (and by doing this that’d put my Romanian friends to rest, they’ve been pissed ever since Hungary got added XD).

You have no idea how pissed my Hungarian friend was Hungary was added to Italy, thing is barely any Hungarians wanted Hungary to be in Italy XD

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