Vympel R-73 'ARCHER' - History, Design, Performance & Discussion



Who’s excited for the TOTALLY not OP, super duper balanced R-73!

Haha, amazing

R73 pulling an AIM-95 Agile bruh

Definitely not intended tho, even in files it should not be able to track a target beyond 45 degrees and it shouldn’t even extend beyond 75 degrees

This issue extends to all air to air missiles. Most just do not have the turn radius to regain sight of target before break-lock time explodes the missile… lol

Ah, yeah it was probably on the edge of that funny timer phase where the seeker will ‘extend’ out past the gimbal limit and it caught him in time because he didn’t maneuver.

Like this?

Also, is this behavior or the self-destruction of missiles a realistic thing at all?

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Yeah same issue, and no. Not all missiles self-destruct.

I hope any day gajin fix R-73 flare resistant better AIM-9L 5% or 8%

So, it’s hard to tell but it looks like that guy is flying straight with AB. Doesn’t maneuver and doesn’t flare. Yeah, the 73 turns like crazy but if he had turned off AB, flared and turned it would have likely missed…

that is maximum somebody can do sir after preflaring

It’s a difference of 3 buttons or flying straight. There are a lot more ways they can do things but what I mean is they can literally drop a flare(Not even a lot), pull off AB, and turn off. No crazy turns, just a sharp turn and boom, done.

like what? others are dodging

You COMPLETELY missed the point of that video, and why the R-73 is concerning in the first place…

Besides the fact that its the second most flare resistant plane launched IR missile in the game rn (narrowly beaten by the R-27R, but it crushes every other IR missile with a tiny 1.5° post launch FOV, with the next closest being 2.5°), the missile is maneuvrable enough to be fired at you in situations where with any other vehicle, youd think you were safe.

It makes proper threat identification and classification MUCH more difficult when the plane doesnt have to be pointing its nose at you, and can even be flying in the complete opposite direction when shooting at you.


I didn’t know the R-27R was resistant to flares. Tbqh I didn’t even know it could sense / see flares so I’d like to learn more about this. ;)

Yes, the R-73 drastically reduces its’ range when maneuvering high-angle off-bore though. If you’re >2km from him and he’s more than 50 degrees or so nose pointed away from you… you’re more or less safe. Even if he does launch a single flare is usually more than sufficient to stop it currently.

Of course that will change. The R-73 has several open reports right now and is SIGNIFICANTLY underperforming.

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Does the missile “run out” of thrust vectoring when the motor stops burning?


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Also the proximity fuse has the same range (3m) as r-60 missiles despite the noticeably increased explosive mass. I assume this is a placeholder value and if increased it could make a major difference in certain scenarios

Perhaps, I am collecting more sources currently. Hope to update thread in a few weeks with a lot of information but my attention is on AIM-120 / R-77 right now.

So is this meant to be possible? Surely the seeker should have lost lock once the missile was pointed completely the opposite direction to the aircraft?


Did he just get lucky because the missile carried on turning after it lost lock and re-acquired the target?

Unsure, certainly not as intended.