Generic you reiterated the hell out of that history.
Not quite the best example imo though, because technically they are directly related, as both originated from the TFX program.
I’m just having a laugh splitting hairs. Pay no mind as its besides your point. Which I understood.
The entire point of the Agile was supremacy in the dogfight at the expense of all else, and as such where they would be optimized which is where TVC is a big advantage at least in comparison to a conventional 1st / 2nd generation layout. Had there been a need for longer range there would still be the Sidewinder, Falcon, Super Falcon, Sparrow, AMRAAM, Phoenix, etc. depending on the launch platform. So the lack of range past a point isn’t an issue if there is a clear use case.
Sure some magical universal missile would be nice, but a comparative specialist may still beat it out in some specifics which causes issues.
This entire argument is why there is no NATO standard SRAAM; unlike the Sparrow / AMRAAM / SM family, instead you get the AIM-9X, ASRAAM, IRIS-T, MICA, AAM-3 etc. because there is no Pan-European agreement on the tradeoff of Dogfight specialization vs Range. Due to the AIMVAL / ACEVAL findings spurring a divestment from the Sidewinder as a platform for the most part permitting nations to find their own balance.
And again The AIM-95 is the closest the US ever came to having their own R-73 equivalent in service, which was a viable option for avoiding IRCCM based power creep(AIM-9M), considering that various relevant airframes were tested with them.
They seriously need to fix this , the missile has been in the game for 4 months + now and they STILL haven’t fixed it.
Updated my bug report about R-73
R-73 autopilot and Thrust vectoring broken // Gaijin.net // Issues
Do we need 60g?
For accuracy, yes
Should the missile pull more or just a stat card issue? 20gs of extra pull sounds like a lot, a 50% increase seems crazy
It’s 60G when TVC is used, 40G when it runs out of thrust
So what you guys want is not missile changes but statcard changes? Or is TVC not 60G right now?
Wouldn’t that be game breaking? (At least for now)
I think hes saying that it currently is 40g but needs to be 60g while burning.
currently in the TVC can access 40G very quickly and so it does (maneuvers), after burning tvc quickly flushed out of energy during maneuvers.
There should be 60G in the TVC and access it faster and currently it has a max of 40G
Wow why did gaijin butcher the R-73 like this? İs this the Russian bias I heard so much about?
yes, even irrcm in aim9m is better. Currently I would prefer to swap with r73 irccm
R-73 IRCCM is too inconsistent, depends on many factors… While 9M IRCCM works even Vs F-5C, more reliable
side aspect in aim9m doesnt care about flares
side aspect in r73 cares a lot
You can’t even kill Gripen with R-73 lol, just turn on Auto flare with his 700 flares and he won’t die , but 9M will kill him
TVC and main motor uses separate propellent?
From my experience it seems like you need at least 30-40 flares to flare an AIM-9M and about 20-25 flares for R-73 (Including maneuvers and cutting of afterburner). Anyways both are painful to face in jets that barely have any flares.