The ability to maneuver in both single and multi plane is present, simply watch it being launched just as with the AIM-54. They pitch in “X” configuration upwards towards targets off the rail.
Of course having the capability to maneuver in X & + configuration as needed is a bonus, just like with HAWK, AIM-9, AIM-54, or practically any other missile. This is not such a big deal irl.
so r27 had dual plane G values till now? damn, so that should also mean r24 should pull less g? what about magic 2 with dual plane? i swear it pulls like 50g even tho the statcard says like 35g, how much will it pull with dual plane, like 70g?
I don’t see why this would apply to the r24.
Granted I haven’t actually looked at the r24 manual but r27 is a completely new set of fins and such.
It’s actually modelled off the magic 1 maneuverability. Ik, insane. There’s a chart floating out there that corresponds g pull to speed, I bet @DirectSupport can post it in here if you want to see it. Magic 2 should actually be much more maneuverable than what it is rn which is ridiculous.
Rn magic 1 and 2 have same maneuverability.
@MythicPi what you think, think it’s worth writing up a report for this? I don’t think it’s exactly fair that the r27 gets to have its dual plane modeled when so many other missiles would benefit from it (especially the hawk/fakour 90 on the Iranian tomcats)
Pretty sure gaijin will just say something like “this proves the R-27 always operates in dual plane, so we will not change its modelling in-game” and slap it with a fat “Not a Bug”, but its worth a shot anyways imo.
Still not sure why gaijin refuses to give missiles their max dual plane maneuverability in-game tbh. Seems really silly imo, but thats just another chapter in the book of dumb that is gaijins modelling decisions.
That’s not what was said, the case has been made that it has a 35G limit in single AND dual plane. Just like the HAWK can do 20G single AND dual plane.
The limit is lower than the potential maximum overload, so it is a structural issue limited by guidance logic.
On a side note, the R-23 and R-24 are severely underperforming in low speed maneuverability and turn radius.