VL MICA SAM - History, Design, Performances & Discussion

If you mean PATRIOT then yes, it has a ARH missile, but earlier were Track-via-missile (so maybe not strictly speaking SARH, but a child between it and CLOS).

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I forgot to respond to that.
The search radars work a little differently compared to missile radars in game.

That still should not be the case, as helicopters tend to have a ginormous doppler signature wherever they go, as, you know, they might have a few big objects spinning at hight speeds.
Sadly gaijin refuses to model rotors doppler return, so here we are.

Then I don’t understand how SARH seekers can see a notching target provided there’s enough altitude difference but ARH missiles can’t see a heli with enough altitude difference.

Missile work in strange ways, don’t they?

I would love to give a nice comment to this, but it is something is physically can not explain in a way different than “It’s a game thing”

Maybe it can be raised with a bug report, especially that ARH missiles should enter pulse when they lose doppler effect on the target, and it should deal with the heli problem.

Unless that heli chaff the missile in pulse mode, or stationary helis lack any radar return.

from the few times i shot a MICA from a M2K or rafale against helis in GRB, they usually can lock on a heli if its higher

Recently announced mica vl sale.

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unless you have a source to back that one up, i’m afraid the DV can’t really be considered fictional

The missile is still too draggy though.

Just like most french missiles, MICA doesn’t burn for long bu burns quite hard

(refering to Iris-t slm - #1446 by Fireball_2020)

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/UK3spNlttxkq

Wow thats bad lol.
It doesnt detect anything slower then 54km/h?

Thats a serious weakness , the radar gets easily taken out by drones.

Thats not a strength its a weakness

Maybe it can, maybe it can’t, the public value is 15m/s

And thats the value its getting for the game.

Helicopter pretty much can sneak up on you

Yeah, except it all falls apart here :

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so, 3s for booster, and ~2.5s sustainer (Gaijin put 3.75 which is in fact a bit too much, but over compensated by the absurd amount of drag it gets in game)

As for the 710m/s value, it’s just MBDA being MBDA and not immediately releasing all the specs : see for example :


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Same company : one said 12km, but now has been updated to 20km

Buddy, there is no sustainer. We know that from the manufacturer. So the 3.75s is the total burn. So no it doesn’t “all fall down”

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ever heard of a little thing called rotor blades ? X)

Regarding FPV drones, you don’t defend your multi million SAM sites by detecting the drones and shooting them down, it would be pointless and a waste of money.

Best defences is just to move on a regular basis.

ok what’s that then ?
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Christmas lights ?

Burning of residuals and or heat inside the motor and TVc system. Given it quickly falls to no glow.

Ever wondered how the game works and its limitations.

Besides that drones literaly are one of the biggest sam killers😂
Literaly everyday prove right now.
You not realising that is sad

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From the manufacturer. No arguing with that.

I did not deny drones were not SAM killers, i just said that a detection of 15m/s is not going to change that. Besides, you could probably detect a decently sized quadcopter even with a low speed because of the rotors once again

A lot could be said about MICA VLs downsides, but the radar just ain’t it

Sure, but that’s not a MICAs problem then, but a game limitation one. Which should be changed, by the way, since some helicopters are going to receive invisible shielding to IIR sensors next patch

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Link ?