VK 36.01 (H) The Tiger I father

Slower ? He is sure ?
It is faster and better armored than the PzIV.
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And once again I will repeat!
We already have a 5.0 with 100mm of armor using this gun, and it performs well.
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Imagine a Tiger I engine, carrying 10 tons less.
This is a VK3601

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I am in a different discussion about the VK 3001, and i was mistaken, i though i was on that forum.

Yes, you are right.

However, i would like to oint out, that you are talking about a KV-1. That KV-1 is just better armored, than the Tiger 1.

Vith the VK’s armor, the problem is the very weak side, turret, and cupola armor. You can angle a Tiger, but you just can’t angle this VK in way to make the front effective, while the side being effective too.
80mm turret front, with a Panther style mantlet is just bad. It is flat, and the mantlet is effective 70-75mm, since it is probably cast armor, and not a black hole mess, like on the Tiger.
50mm cupola? Yes, soviet 45mm go brrrrrrrrrr.

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Maybe this works fine in 4.7 do you think?

i would say 4.3. It would be a good 4.3, and a usable 4.7

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+1 gib!!!

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I’m not holding my breath, but if the devs took the time to model APCNR correctly I’d be pleasantly surprised. It’d add some spice to the German tech tree instead of your typical ‘APCBC-HE go brrrr’

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Why dont you copy this over to the real suggestion part?

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i will do it, thanks mate

You may copy my post and mention me or link it to save some time. 7,5/5,5 cm Pak 41 KwK 41 or Waffe 0725

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I tried to post in the suggestions tab, but I couldn’t.
If you are a native English speaker, could you do this?

I mean i can do one, but not copy yours thats pagarism.

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I agree. I think it would be a good “training wheels” tiger so people aren’t jumping straight from a panzer III

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The pz3 ausf. L with the squeeze bore got passed to developers. If this gets added chances are better for this to get added

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I confess that I’m already tired of this suggestion.
I’ve been fighting for him on the forum since 2015

Several issues.

1, extremely weak cupola, that will be penned by literally everything. Get ready to be 1shotted by Swedish 40mm SAP.
2, Horrible turret design: 80mm mantlet, that is 80mm (75mm effective if it is cast), with 80mm, likely RHA frame. Most 3.3 and higher will just LOLpen it even at distance.
You can’t ange it, because of the shit angled side-front plate (unknown thickness, but even if it is 80mm, it would still prevent any angling.
3, Bad hull. 100mm at 4.0 and higher for a heavy tank is laughable, if we take the horrible turret into account. This is not the only issue. You can angle a KV-1 very well, since the front is 100mm, and the side is 75mm (instead of 60 here), or even 100mm at some places.
4, likely bad mobility. It has 0.1 HP/t less, that the Tiger H1. While the max speed looks good, it will likely stuggle to reach it even in arcade, with almost double engine power.
Add the 4.16 km/h reverse speed, and get a functionally useless tank.

The gun is going to be good, no matter if it is a medium or the long 75mm.

Basically, it would be just inferior to a KV-1B, or even to a normal KV-1 L-11. I’d say BR 4.3 at max, but more likely 4.0.

No, i think its rolled into shape like the Pz IIIs gun mantlet.

I’m going to laugh my ass off since aside from the cupola and the forward speed you just described the M6A1.

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I think your assessment was extremely pessimistic
Give me one, and I’ll prove to you that it can be 5.0

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+1
It seems like 4.7 or 5.0 material with KwK 40, 5.0 with the 75mm squeezers, and 4.3 with a LeFH 18 (assuming that’s the 105 L28 referenced). Any way, a great addition for TT. We need more WWII vehicles, and the gap between the Pz III M and Tiger H1 is probably the largest in the German tree.

I personally think the 105mm derp gun assault tank in particular would be super fun to play. That’s a vehicle type that’s super lacking in WT at the moment, and this, the M45, KV-9, and Churchill VII AVRE are some of my most anticipated WWII vehicles.

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Yeah, agreed, the M6A1 comparison is very apt. I’d go 4.7 or 5.0 to start with and see how it does, then put it higher or lower depending on how it performs, or leave it as is of course.

Quoting every word. Nothing to add, except that I’m confident we’ll see all of them. If it exists, it’ll come to the game eventually, it’s a question of when, not if.

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