No, I mean the people with like 10k-20k matches on the M3 Stuart or similar with equally insane kill counts because they don’t play anything else. They’re just there to farm newbies.
Have you considered they like playing at that level??
Your solution was long implemented but abandoned eventually. Because it failed. It created a pool of seals that everyone could farm in with a second, third… account. I guess some people only played there anyway and restarted when their protected time ended.
The second problem is, that your suggestion will double the problem: With the amount of battles you now have, you will get clubbed in your proposed newbie pool too, because a player with 400 battles is already far more able than a beginner. And he still has 600 battles to go.
At the end of his 1000 battles, he will feel like a champ. Then he will get expelled from the newbie pool and after three more games post here: “I was a good player and then suddenly all hell broke loose!!1!1!!”
In the past, these posts were common, because Gaijin did not tell people they were playing in a protected environment, nor inform them of their transfer. People noticed, when all hell broke loose. And honestly, it better breaks loose gradually, then after 1000 games.
To sum it up, with your 20 games, you are still an absolute beginner and can be clubbed by anyone with 300 games more experience. So it makes little point to do suggestions without experience. You have to gain experience first. There are several PVE modes in which you can experiment with aiming and steering, but this game is an endless learning process.
Not all of them, your victim complex makes you not see the reasons some go into the lower teirs.
I sometimes do my dailys in an M3 stuart, and I like it because it’s quick and very sporty
Fighting vets as a newbie sucks mate, but that’s how you get good faster.
I don’t really care about player “levels”…every team has better and worse players. Levels give an “indication” of experience…not necessarily skill…trusting that a low level player is bad is a risk.
Simple rule is that at lower BR the AVERAGE EXPERIENCE of each team is lower, so easier to play in general.
Usually there will be (much) better players on both teams…but also some green players around…but green players become rarer at higher BRs for obvious reasons.
SO…to learn the game…play low BRs.
To have fun…play the BR you want.
I saw plenty that has over 70,000 matches, playing only low tier and instead of clubbing, they are getting clubbed.
This game is very new player unfriendly, but if you are willing to put in the hours to learn it can rewarding. You are probably gonna be getting your ass handed to you for months even if you start basically studying the game like a subject.
With things like shooters a lot of your skill set from one carries over to another, and raw mechanical aim is a huge portion of what makes a good player. But in this game its almost more of a knowledge based game in both and air and ground.
For air you need to know at least the most common enemies you will be fighting, their strengths and weaknesses, and of course your own planes. How you should approach each situation, depending on energy, how many team mates or enemies are around, and of course how to set yourself up with those advantages.
In ground a good portion of how well you can do in a match is down to map knowledge, knowing all the good spots, how to move to them, when to move on, how to read the minimap and flow of the match to make those decisions. For aim its not just good enough to have good aim, again you need to know a good portion of the vehicles, where to aim, where to aim when you have different ammo, where their ammo is stored, how to shoot a vehicle at different aspects. I still throw terrible side on shots that get me killed because i forget and aim too center or too far back to hit ammo and that gets you killed most times.
If you are just interested in air I’d recommend picking up a cheap premium of a plane you are interested in around 3.0-5.0 BR, these are pretty safe/fun BRs to play, you stay out of seal clubber range, and out of the people that love to play their late war super props. Learn how to play that plane, and every time you die to someone remember what plane that was, go do some research and figure out what you did wrong and how you should have approached that situation differently. If you start playing realistic you’ll have some time while you climb to look at planes too and after like a a week or 2 of doing this you should be considerably more confident than you are now. There’s a lot of good content creators that can help you for air.
For ground its the same thing, except you are learning tank weakspots and where to shoot in different aspects. But learning the maps, how to posistion etc. is going to be quite the learning curve, most players don’t even think about ground in that way tbh. My enjoyment on maps I know how to play is much greater than on maps I have no clue what im doing.
For learning this stuff watching these videos can give you a good base, and give you the tools to know what good posistions look like on maps that aren’t featured here, and of course if you want to do something different you can identify what makes a spot good.
There just isn’t many content creators going over stuff like this, I like this guy the most. You have 2 other options but the content is either severly limited or outdated.
Well, obviously. Something tells me they’re not there just because they’re passionate about the history of early WW2 light tanks or for the intricacies of their unique gameplay (which there aren’t).
That’s not what I’m talking about, I’ve done a lot of event grinding on rank 1 event vehicles and there’s nothing wrong with going back to low tiers for fun. The people I’m talking about go out of their way to only play rank 1. The worst case I saw was a guy who had the Medal of Honor title for playing his Stuarts alone. In Arcade, so no multipliers. That’s some dedication to clubbing seals.
I feel there’s a difference still.
Folk who just like WW2 stuff will fly a lot of planes with high variety even if it’s a mid or bad vehicle.
Folk who just want better KDR will go and spawn P-39 or XP-55 or whatever and farm people without ever using anything else.
How the hell would you know that?? What arrogant rdrivel
I started my wargaming with Airfix plastic kitsets that only had (IIRC) Crusaders, Grants, Shermans, P-4, Tiger 1, T34/76 and /85 , KV-1 and IS-3 (which we didn’t play with 'cos not used in WW2) - and that is still a great deal of fun for me.
So you can fuck right off with your stupid ignorant arrogant presumptive bullshit!
Folk who just want better KDR will go and spawn P-39 or XP-55 or whatever and farm people without ever using anything else.
My thoughts too
Cool story. Nothing to do with people who only play “meta” vehicles at low tiers to curbstomp newbies and farm easy kills. If they played for other reason they’d at least try out new vehicles, new lineups or different countries instead of spamming the same vehicle over and over thousands of times.
The game allows it and they’re in their right to do so. I just don’t get why people get up in arms defending them.
i ran into a guy with 50k battles, asked him for a duel to learn, he had a meltdown and said i was a “KD tryhard” (what?) and a bunch of words i wont type here, so, is it rude to ask people out for a duel…?
Randomly DMing people is probably weird, yes.
Your best luck is in a LFG discord, an actual squadron rather than random grind squadrons and maybe the forums.
For SB, I recommend Wingaling’s discord as a starting point. IDK about any public RB/AB ones.
a bunch of words i wont type here
Well, firstly, please report such content using the in-game complaint system and it will be dealt with accordingly :)
so, is it rude to ask people out for a duel…?
Depends a bit on how you phrase it, there is (sort of) a bad culture of "1v1 me bro, I’ll show you how good i really am, i’m just bad this match because of my current team [insert swears and rudeness] " which many just sort of assume is the case when you straight up just ask for a duel with no other context (though bad words as a response is NEVER okay and should be reported).
I think you’ll have better luck posting a thread to the “the academy - players asking players” section to see if someone is willing to mentor you :)
Randomly DMing people is probably weird, yes.
…what? this is a multiplayer game, youre playing with real people, theres a social aspect to multiplayer game, how is dming someone to ask them for tips “weird”? I- like i dont even know what to say to that line.
i dont really care about people being asses online, ive had my days in tf2 and CSGO so im used to it, the one time i used the report function was when i reported a squadron named after the leibstandard SS squadron with an equally repugnant discord filled with all kinds of awful messages and gore gifs and god knows what. And all I all I did was say " you beat me, can we duel so i can learn from you? " thats it.
I did find someone through the game anyway so its all good.
Even though you might not personally care, it’s still good to report, the game is 12 + so any report is a step towards helping children not see that type of content. :)
Also, please edit your post and take away all the forbidden words, all things banned to say in-game is also banned on the forum, even if said as a secondary repetition of what others have said.
If you’re a complete stranger in a random lobby coming up after the match without previous interaction? Yes, I classify that as rather weird and frankly suspicious.
If you have engaged in chatter mid-match and we either had a cool fight as enemies with ggs/gfs or had an impromptu opportunity to do some nasty teamwork that either failed or succeeded? Or even just chattering about planes or some funny observations we shared together? A DM afterwards makes sense.
Granted, I tend towards suspicion with most people. I’m eager to offer advice in public in chat (and often do when people voice difficulties in prop SB), but once private I wanna have some knowledge of who is pestering me.
who is pestering me.
i think we have a very, very different view of what being weird means, good day.