The nation has around 300 vehicles which could be added that are unique
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Then it should be a Tech tree
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Hell no. I will throw a little kid tantrum. I’m allready mad as hell that our vehicles get added to the ruskies. I would rather see them in the german tech tree.
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The only nation that should be added to USSR tree is Belarus.
But since it has no vehicles, unlucko.
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As a czech i disagree with our vehicles going to the occupants. We will never forget 1948 and 1968. We deserve standalone tech tree or maybe together with Poland.
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No, no, and no.
V4 would be a wayyy better use of Czechoslovakia. While unfortunately Hungary might be a non option, the tree can still hold up mostly by itself (plus maybe some other Eastern European countries like the Baltics can make guest appearances at low tier + higher tier can be bolsterd by Ukraine).
Besides, we’ve seen some nations become independent trees before (France from UK, Italy from Germany, Sweden from UK and Israel from multiple trees, not sure about China).
The USSR still has a large amount of additions left across each tier and branch (again, only counting the USSR, RF and Russian empire). If the USSR really needs a subtree, Iran is a far better pick (NK aswell although it could also work as part of the Chinese or a independent Korean tree).
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While I still think the subtree should be Iran or NK, Belarus has a few vehicles
There are definitely more out there
That being said, Iran and NK should be the subtrees as they were treated kinder than how the soviets or Russians treated many European countries being suggested as subtrees (yes I also think India in the UK tree is a baffling idea, especially with the visceral refusal to add more Indian vehicles that were either based of or modded British stuff, it should’ve been independent like one the suggestions outline.) though BY stuff could appear as a squadron or premium perhaps.
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Belarus has only one respectable tank. It is a T-72 with anti-javelin protection xdd
Actually, yeah I forgot about modern day axis alliance
Iran and NK would be suitable addition to the tree.
Not every nation on earth should be in the game as TT only one that big enough should be
But if that what people want
Where is my north sentinel island TT?
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We’ve seen nations become separate trees despite originally being part of a existing one so hopefully it isn’t a final destination
Feels slightly disingenuous considering it’s a lot more than just “leopards and abaltros” (yes there are some copy and paste but the point is that there are a ton of unique vehicles that wouldn’t be added if it was slotted into the USSR tree)
These + Poland (and possibly others) should be enough to stand on its own, not wallow in the USSR or the multiple trees Poland’s split between.
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U have self humiliation fetish or something? You are posting stuff people will scold you for
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And what does ,big" in this context mean exactly?
Area? Czechoslovakia was about 140 000km2 large, which may not be alot (about half the size of Italy, GB etc) but its still 6x larger than Israel
Population? Approx. 16 400 000 people living in Czechia and Slovakia currently exceeds the population of both Sweden and Israel by about 5 million
Industry size? Why isnt it in the game already then? Czechoslovakia was the 3rd largest producer of armored vehicles during the Cold war, one of the largest producer of military jet aircraft and also a major small arms producer. It was also among the largest arms exporters of the interwar period (even reaching 1st place in 1935 and 1936 afaik), with sucessor states of Czechia an Slovakia still being a preety significant arms exporters to this day.
Number of original vehicles? The ground tree can be easily as large as the Soviet one while having as little as 10 copy-paste tanks and no paper ones (with those, you can bring the copy-paste number to 0 without creating much gaps).
There simply is no reason not to add an independent Czechoslovakia, or, at the very least, an independent Czecho-Polish tree (but i guess that would require an actual effort)
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This is exactly one of the things I see repeatedly from people. Not only do they they not have a consistent definition on the size needed (as well as what’s deemed copy and paste) but they also seem to quickly look past any original modifications or vehicles (bonus points for ww2 stuff) and chalk it down to “you just want X countries Leo/T-80/F-16/etc, just put X flag on it”.
It’s why I hope not only do we get a V4 tree, but also a Yugoslav and Latin American tree, as their way better destinations than a existing tree (although I’m fine with some i.e Nordic vehicles on Sweden because the other Nordic countries would lack enough domestic options, but with Sweden, can still provide tons of vehicles across all branches).
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Good question
Big enough in this place that most people say mean
How many of domestic vehicle that country makes or domestic upgraded (like Swedish Strv122 or T-72M2 for example) combine them together
if big enough to makes a Tech tree, then go for it it okay to be tech tree or sub tree
if Czech enough vehicle to makes a TT I think they should be in the game no problems.
I can relate. I hate that Indian vehicles got added to Britain when Britain had much better alternatives that were not controversial or game breaking like Australia, and Canada.
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NK would be more suitable to China or as a joint tree with SK (if Taiwan got added to China the same can happen with NK and SK)
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If you find heavily modified foreign/licensed vehicles unique then there is no problem really. If you would be interested, you can check out the proposal itself:
Czechoslovak ground tree proposal
Proposal itself (this is an older version BTW. If you wanna see the updated version, or the non-copy-paste or extended one, feel free to click on the links further down):
Normal version (tree with as many original, useable vehicles as possible. Copy-paste used only where necessary. No paper designs. Total number of vehicles - 173, of which 113 fully domestic, 50 upgraded foreign and 10 copy-paste (the tree hasnt been updated since june last year BTW, so soon the number of vehicles will grow)):
non-copy-paste version (no opy-paste vehicles at all, some BR gaps filles with paper designs. Total number of vehicles - 175, of which 124 fully domestic, 51 upgraded foreign):
Czechoslovak ground tree (without copy-paste)
Extended version (as many addable vehicles as possible, including less meta vehicles, paper designs and copy-paste. Total number of vehicles - 293, of which 173 fully domestic, 75 upgraded foreign, 45 copy paste (of which 22 isnt in the game yet)):
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