Update 2.57.1.33

29SMT has by far the worst flight model there. Also statcard lies.

It’s a sidegrade. It has the best radar of the bunch but it’s BY FAR the slowest.

A clean F-2 tops out at 1364kph at sea level; F-16A-15 ADF and MLU do 1502kph, and 29SMT does 1555kph.

Very good, made a suggestion for a later variant: Community Bug Reporting System

… at 12000 meters altitude, noone is dropping nukes at 12km above the battlefield

What other Fox 3 capable nuke carrier would they get anyway? Its the first one in the USSR tree

Wait, so does the JASDF actually know their F-2A can now carry B61 nukes? Or did you Gaijin just roll up with your own mechanics, mod the thing for them, and while you were at it, conveniently “borrow” a US nuke on the side?

I don’t usually meddle in forum talks but I have to mention this as people seem to have missed it.

All those F-16s will only have AIM-9Ls. While the F-2A and the MiG-29SMT will have proper IRCCM missiles.

It’s literally another closet NATO nerf.

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Turns out its not even about the 2+2 fit, but RWR performance

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I guess in the eyes of Gaijin/Bvvd the ANTILOPE-5/SERVAL = SPO-15 🤣

Seriously though. I hope there’s a bit more info there than simply just RWR.

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This sounded more like an excuse, on GRB at least

the 29SMT choice is… odd…

It’s better defensively than most others thanks to HMD and R-77/R-73, but the FM is by far the worst, especially acceleration wise, which is what really matters for a nuke plane.

Also Idk if the nuke version gets the UV-5 mod, so it might have less (or worse) CMs than the rest.

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99% of their communications are excuses not reasons. So nothing new there, but its just a wierd one.

the “we want aircraft to have 2+2 fit” would have been a far far more reasonable excuse

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Nobody even noticed the AShM buff

HMS Nepal’s & cargo ships on Denmark/Port Moresby get ready

Wtf is a nuke anyway

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Im not holding my breath that the ASMs would actually target the right spot on Cargo ships though

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Maybe its time to use my F-2 ADTW in an anti-ship role instead of farming airfield AA with JDAM-ERs

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I have had better results with the ASM-1, the radar-guided AShMs seem to target specific components more reliably while thr IR ASM-2 often just hit CoM for me

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Why F-16s and MiG-29s and not the actual ground-attack aircraft like the F-15E and Su-34?

bc its currently placeholders

I don’t see why it was necessary to make every nation use an F16…
If they can give the F2 a nuke simply for gameplay purposes, why can’t they give nukes to other aircraft to act as the nuke carrier. Like strapping a B61 to the Typhoon or Rafale, or F15E and SU-34 instead of 500 F16s.

The only thing people care about when dropping a nuke is going fast and not being killed. And the F16 is just not a great choice for that. Sure, it has good air to air performance, but you are trying to get to the battlefield, not hit a 5 killstreak.

And sure, the Tornado and F111 shows their age at the highest echelons of top tier, but it’s more so a problem with being able to J out the second you hear that siren to smack the nuke carrier with a Fox 3 from across the map than the older aircraft not being a good fit.

So, I think this shouldn’t have been done. Placeholder or not, it’s a mistake.

becasue it is currently placeholders

FINALLY. this bugged me for so long i actually stopped using them for a while

Btw.

It is fun, that apparentally those new nuke planes are only available if you got 13.0 jet or helo in your own lineup?
Since I play 12.3 or 12.7 lineups, and having 13.0 matches, there is no new nuke planes to be seen