To be fair Abrams has one of the, if not the worst turret rings at top tier in terms of being extremely exposed and even significantly weaker shells can slide right through
dont forget france
everyone is getting atleast a few leopard 2 now
That might be so, but it still doesnt excuse the fact the Abrams does outperform pretty much everyone else in pretty much every single respect.
Not saying it doesnt have issues, just saying, calling it “worse than everyone else” is just dishonest.
I forgot about that. Though was more thinking the Leopard 2A7s rather than the 2A6s
So does every Abrams shot at the hull, if you like the feeling of being a handicap go ahead and play the SEP,SEPV2.
Not like the one on the Abrams, it get worst turret ring armor in the game, 50mm of protection cant stop anything at all.
Before: Abrumsi spam
Now: Leopard go brrrrtttt
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Please, go play the Challenger 3TD. You will be begging to play the Abrams in about 30 seconds
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I still have no idea why you dragging this, also the Challenger did not get the basket nerf.
Yet* Though we have images without it.
The point is, Calling Abrams, the seocnd or third strongest tank in game, “weaker than everyone else” and then asking for a massive shell buff as a result is kinda insane.
What next? F-15 cant outdogfight the Typhoon so you want Block 3 Aim-9X and Aim-120Ds?
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Wouldnt go that far but i agree Abrams isnt the worst, since things like Merkavas and Arietes exist.
Every tank has bugs, lotsa bugs(except T-xx duh) but Gaijin wont fix them
Chally suffer from poor modelling and UK tea tax
Leclerc can be penned by baguette(although Leclerc armor is quite decent sometimes)
Ariete armor is the equivalent of spaghetti
ZTZ/VT armor got butchered by Gaizyn
Leopard armor especially hull armor is still paper which it shouldnt be
And lastly Abrams armor are export model armor, and hull doesnt get generational upgrade
and thats just armor alone
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With the exception of the Leopards and maybe the T-80BVM, what else isnt at the very least equal?
Maybe the Leclercs? Though they have a much weaker shell iirc.
Few have the mobility, firepower and protection of the Abrams. Most have 1 or 2, but I cant think of any others that have all 3 to the same degree.
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Even more, I don’t know how you guys even manage to kill them at all.
Its only this part id disagree with, but im not at home so cant really compare the armor packages right now.
I wouldnt rely on Abrams armor outside hulldown when i play KVT.
How is it “Massive”? it’s literally against Kontakt that’s it, also the addition of the SEPV2 was pretty useless without the dart.
and you shouldnt
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Then perhaps the better word is survivability.
At the very least, I average 2 shots per Abrams for a kill. Im a bad ground player, I dont play it often, but between blow out panels and in my experience, reasonably good armour, they usually can survive a hit.
If I see a Merkava or soemthing, it dies in one hit, every time.
This does not apply with Russian tanks.
I find the Merkava’s survivability better than the Abrams honestly especially it didn’t get the basket nerf, when i get shot its mostly takes two of my crew and i can shoot back after 2 seconds.
So? It’s not a “Massive” buff at all, since alot of the tanks after receiving these darts they would fight against tanks with Relikt not Kontakt, so calling it “Massive” is a “overstatement”
How? Putting ERA all over the tank but forget to actually use a better transmission?
I dont rely on armor in general, but it certainly is nice to be able to peek ridge without getting lolpenned in the cheek.
If you want ERA-Perforation added, then that also needs to be added to the L27A1 and DM53, etc. Its not just Abrams that has that. If you want a new shell with more pen, then that affects more than just soviet ERA