Such as?
I can only think of the Leopard 2s and maybe the T-80 BVM
We have 7 CR2s, still no fixes at all
Didnt think that was proven
Again, so is pretty much everyone else
And then the Challenger 3 should have come with DM83 and L27A1 is also made to do the same.
I dont really get why you are complaining about shell performance when you have the second best in game just slightly behind DM53, but most DM53 slingers have a 6 second reload, you only have 5…
Again, so would everyone else.
If they have things to buff, buff them. Realisticaly of course. I wouldn’t be able to know as i don’t play other nations in ground. What i know is that the Abrams is pretty bad compared to the top 3 and it’s not realisticaly implemented. I suppose that bringing it to a realistic standard would help
Fix everything
F-14 Ignored for the billionth time. I don’t understand what’s so difficult about looking a bugreports.
But you have the time to instantly nerf it’s loadout as soon as it’s bugreported…
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tJKBcYkDfnCU
It’s not a “suggestion” Gaijin. It’s fixing a historical inaccuracy.
and I have no issue with that either.
But
Honestly.
Abrams is in the top 3 imo.
Leopard 2 (germany, Sweden, Hungary)
T-80 BVM (soviets)
Abrams (US)
After that
Leclerc (france)
T-90M (Soviets)
Type10 (Japan)
ZTZ99A (China)
Merkava (Israel)
Challenger 2 (britain)
Ariete (Italy)
Challenger 3TD (Britain)
You get the idea.
Im not saying the US doesnt have things to fix. Im just saying, the US also isnt actually all that bad
You still have one of the best shells in the game, with a great RoF and Sustained fire, great moblity, good protection, good optics, etc etc. Trust me when I say, it can always be worse (looks at the CR3TD)
It was proven and they did not act on it at all.
None of the Tanks ingame as far as im aware they do not have a huge weakspot between the turret and the hull.
Atleast few Challengers received spall liners in their turrets which improved their survivability.
I’d trade it anyday for better armor.
Abrams is top 4 after the Leclerc, they have similar hull protection but the Leclerc’s exceeds in being inpenetrable by 3bm42 with tricky turret armor.
As i said earlier, from the base M1 to the HC the Abrams is pretty good, but after that it’s garbage considering they mostly fight against superior tech.
Challenger 2 has one between the turret cheeks.
Barely, still missing most of them and still get 1 shot most of the time.
and again, Only really the Leopard 2s that everyone struggles against. I class fighting Abrams as an uptier in the CR2
To be fair Abrams has one of the, if not the worst turret rings at top tier in terms of being extremely exposed and even significantly weaker shells can slide right through
dont forget france
everyone is getting atleast a few leopard 2 now
That might be so, but it still doesnt excuse the fact the Abrams does outperform pretty much everyone else in pretty much every single respect.
Not saying it doesnt have issues, just saying, calling it “worse than everyone else” is just dishonest.
I forgot about that. Though was more thinking the Leopard 2A7s rather than the 2A6s
So does every Abrams shot at the hull, if you like the feeling of being a handicap go ahead and play the SEP,SEPV2.
Not like the one on the Abrams, it get worst turret ring armor in the game, 50mm of protection cant stop anything at all.
Before: Abrumsi spam
Now: Leopard go brrrrtttt
Please, go play the Challenger 3TD. You will be begging to play the Abrams in about 30 seconds
I still have no idea why you dragging this, also the Challenger did not get the basket nerf.
Yet* Though we have images without it.
The point is, Calling Abrams, the seocnd or third strongest tank in game, “weaker than everyone else” and then asking for a massive shell buff as a result is kinda insane.
What next? F-15 cant outdogfight the Typhoon so you want Block 3 Aim-9X and Aim-120Ds?
Wouldnt go that far but i agree Abrams isnt the worst, since things like Merkavas and Arietes exist.
Every tank has bugs, lotsa bugs(except T-xx duh) but Gaijin wont fix them
Chally suffer from poor modelling and UK tea tax
Leclerc can be penned by baguette(although Leclerc armor is quite decent sometimes)
Ariete armor is the equivalent of spaghetti
ZTZ/VT armor got butchered by Gaizyn
Leopard armor especially hull armor is still paper which it shouldnt be
And lastly Abrams armor are export model armor, and hull doesnt get generational upgrade
and thats just armor alone
With the exception of the Leopards and maybe the T-80BVM, what else isnt at the very least equal?
Maybe the Leclercs? Though they have a much weaker shell iirc.
Few have the mobility, firepower and protection of the Abrams. Most have 1 or 2, but I cant think of any others that have all 3 to the same degree.
Even more, I don’t know how you guys even manage to kill them at all.
Its only this part id disagree with, but im not at home so cant really compare the armor packages right now.
I wouldnt rely on Abrams armor outside hulldown when i play KVT.