Same plane, same performance, different BRs, make it make sense
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yeah seems like only a bind for zoom in/out is broken, atleast you can use mwheel as zoom axis, still works
If only the SAAB-105 could be deprived of its ability to appear in the air, it destroys bombers with its missiles.
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I don’t understand this. The Phantom is weaker than the MiG-23ML, the Phantom has less speed and less weapons, and even worse missiles. Why does the Phantom go to 11.3 and the MiGs to 10.7? Can you imagine what they will do at 9.7?
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Me 262 C2 to 7.7 finally after yearss
and EPR got new round very nice changes!
and now object 279 will have good line up at 9.0!
+1
Iirc someone has already reported it.
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I honestly do not think the cheese wedge (Strv 103 C) belongs at 9.0… I understand that it is a decently strong vehicle at 8.7, with 105mm APFSDS and a 4 second reload for it’s entire ammo load, but at 9.0 that is about it with the upsides… It doesn’t have outstanding mobility, it doesn’t have unbeatable armor - at 9.0 most APFSDS rounds will just ignore the angled front plate and penetrate, at least taking out the engine and with that the ability to aim and fight back, if not even taking out some crew. The 103C cannot aim on the move (at least not reliably) - if hull aim is activated while moving, the tank will first come to a complete stop before turning to move the gun to the desired direction. It’s round isn’t anything special anymore at 9.0 either… Similarly, I do not think the Ikv 91-105 belongs at 9.0 either. Yes, it is a fully stabilized light tank with scouting, 105mm APFSDS and a LRF, but it has virtually no armor, bad gun depression angles to the front and mediochre gun handling. Also for a light tank it’s mobility is “good” at best, but with a 64 km/h top speed nothing great. I hope these changes get reverted in the near future, especially the cheese wedge. It now just is an RP pinata for the enemy team, getting it’s engine taken out even more frequently than it allready did at 8.7.
(Yes, I am a swedish main, but therefore I speak from experience. I have played the beautiful 8.7 lineup a lot and I can therefore attest that these vehicles are not as OP as they might seem and do not deserve the increase in BR, also because the step from 8.7 to 9.0 is more than just a 0.3 BR increase. These vehicles will now face 10.0 tanks in a full uptier, tanks with 400+ mm penetrating APFSDS rounds, thermals and same - if not better - mobility.)
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Well, the list is ready to spam the thread again next time. A shame they perpetually ignore the community
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GRB battle ratings… The F-4E has much better A2G than the MiG-23s, hence why.
Yes, only the F-4E plays against the Pantsir, which negates all its advantages.
Bombing scores in arcade have been severly nerfed. No reference in the patch notes. Stealth nerf?
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Created a report @Stona_WT please forward it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/mvnIdwuprvC3
I mean partially I guess. But in a similar fashion, the MiG-23s in an uptier can face ADATS, ItO, FlaRakRad, etc, which are all super dangerious to it as well, if it goes CAS. Not to mention it has to sacrifice A2A for A2G. It’s really not that great.
The F-4E could face Pantsirs already anyway, so you should be prepared for them. And you can with the RWR you have on it (you know when a Pantsir is out there). The MiG-23 RWR on the other hand does not tell you anything.
Also, the F-4J exists if you care about A2A armament more than A2G, it gets pretty much equal performance A2G (but more) than the MiG-23, but you don’t have to sacrifice A2A weapons at all to equip them. Since it’s also 10.7, it also doesn’t face Pantsirs if that’s really the only thing you worry about. So if you think the MiG-23s are unfair I guess, just play the F-4J for something comparable.
Good to see you didn’t listen any feedback and made the change anyway.
WE NEED DECOMPRESSION.
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why is the amx a-1 different br as the tt amx, they shuld be the same br
merkava armour fix when?
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They should lower all of them if they’re not going to give the D-28s/30s airspawn
But Gaijin decided to lower only D-28 down. :/
I can’t wait to see how many months will be needed to fix this just like what we experienced on B-26B/C
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Hello, any comments on war thunder logo present on russian trucks on victory parade?
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