Unfair F-18C Implementation - Why Must the Finnish Hornet Be Inferior?

Pantsir and Otomatic have IR tracking, and the F-18 in CAP mode would be near the ground and going fast, no where near the SPAA. Knowing if something is launched on you doesn’t matter when you’re not going to be within range anyway.

I was in my F-4F ICE and yeah there were apparently 3 Pantsirs up, but I didn’t know outside the killfeed cause it didn’t matter. I was hunting CAS.

Still better to have it and not need it. Additionally considering i dont believe the MLU 2 will have the ability to detect K Band for CAS it will leave it quite vulnerable unless you are turning around immediately after spawning. (This is assuming they only get their historical CAS munitions after A2G was restored. Unsure if its the same as the US computers ill need to double check.)

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It is really disappointing that there has been no explanation from the developers so far.

The more this situation repeats, the more evidence there is that they are treating the major nations and the minor nations differently.

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No good F18 for you, Finns
-Smin (Paraphrased)

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Can we elaborate the EEGS topic? I read different statements. Since I haven’t tested it myself, maybe we can precise what is missing.

  • Enhanced Envelope Gun Sight (EEGS), which on an F-18 is called “gun funnel” is missing when in guns mode.
    Gun funnel is not dependant on radar. Works with radar active or in standby. This is a bug, if the funnel is missing.

  • Gun lead sight indicator is missing
    When gun is is Radar tracking mode, there will be a “gun recticle” a “gun center point” and a 1G foresight cue". The gun funnel will not show any longer on radar is in STT. Was the target locked in gun mode? If yes, no funnel. Else if not in STT, funnel is visible while recticle isn’t.

At least the gun lead sight is missing.

It’s quite sure that they are ignoring the minor country for “not loud enough” basicly they don’t play this game and want Swedish players to grind 420k for a suffering Air RB experience for months and then give a chance to grind another 420k for a Hornet that isn’t even op in the previous version.

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Sweden isnt really a neglected nation, they have some of the best top tier on ground and at one point, air.

They have slightly armoured Leopards, with a fighter that constantly gets nerfed, and no good strike aircrafts.

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I have been digging into some stuff. Really, some things i hope GJ fixes them.

  1. Gun Air-to-Air without Radar Gun funnel is there on the F-18C, all models. Its not radar dependant, technically.
    Screenshot 2025-03-17 161640

  2. Gun Air-to-air Active Radar Lock Gun aiming reticle becomes active if FCR is locked onto a single target (STT). Before lock, its not visible in HUD.
    Screenshot 2025-03-17 161919

I haven’t tested the Finnish hornet in dev. I have no clue what is missing. I had some people telling me it is the reticle, other were just missing the funnel.

I think GJ has to fix this

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They have and have had for the longest time, the best top tier leopard and MBT overall.

They also get amazing fighters and a lot of special treatment.

What amazing fighters? The only good fighters post props is MiG 21 bis, and both JAS39A and JAS39C. That’s it.

If that special treatment is being the focus of ahistoric nerfs to their toptier airframe that half the time go undocumented, you would be correct. If you are claiming that they are treated favourably, on the other hand, you would be quite wrong.

The “best toptier leopard” is also wrong. It is a short barreled vaguely up armoured leopard, with armour mostly equivalent in efficacy to the 2a7 with worse gun performance on account of the short barrel.

Since this plane is getting cucked and there was no skin for this in the files I think we should atleast get the unpainted Hornet as it is also the pre-MLU

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Yeah, amazing fighters, some of the best in game.

Come on now, it’s the best leopard. They’ve had the best for years and several of them at that.

Ahistorical nerfs? Welcome to the club, literally every nation gets it.

Not every nation gets trialed vehicles and top tier additions constantly.

Right, that’s why I can beat down on it in pubs. Seriously, I used a stock MiG 29 (not SMT, not German, just a good ol’ 12.7), and I was beating on Grippen C’s.
The Grippen is a great dogfighter in 1v1s, but it is dreadful in Pubs.
The MiG 21 is a great jet for its BR, but plenty of other nations have a MiG 21 or equivalent (Russia obviously, Germany, China, Italy, and even Britain gets one).
The Viggen is terrible, simple as. It has one good turn, and then it stalls out. You could legitimately beat a Viggen in a turn fight with an A-10. I would know, I watched my friend get beat up in his premium Viggen by my other friend in his A-10 premium.
All of Sweden’s jets from 8.0-11.0 are absolutely dreadful. Your only strat is boom and zoom, but here’s the problem: you are literally slower than everyone. Your missiles are constantly outdated compared to other tech trees, oh, and let’s not talk about how terrible the J35 is: no flares, speed bleeds fast, and your only redeemable quality is being able to do funny moves like the Cobra before stalling.
Oh, Swedish premiums? Let’s see, the Viggen which bleeds speed quickly but you get access to AIM 120s for some reason (doesn’t change it from being smacked in close quarters), the J35X (literally the worst premium in the game, very few flares, trash missiles, semi decent rocket load that has lost purpose due to rocket nerfs), the Röd Adam which is only redeemable because it’s the only Swedish jet that gets a decent payload.

Yeah, what part of Sweden is great air besides the Grippen, of which you can get far better in Italy, Britain, and Japan.

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Obviously you’ve never played Sweden. Or if you have, you’re just in denial because you are desperately trying to tell yourself you haven’t wasted your time. I did play Sweden, I have every tank, I have every jet, every helicopter. I believe I know Sweden a tad bit more than you.

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So the leopard which has equally effective armour as the German leopard, but with a worse gun that only recently got a toptier round (that’s still worse than other leopards) is somehow the best leopard? That’s a pretty weird take, mate.

Aye, most nations do get ahistorical nerfs, yet generally it isn’t update after update for others.

And this last one is pretty funny, because it is only recently that new additions to toptier have happened and they’ve been mostly copy paste, or easy edits from existing additions. And that’s only recently. Prior to that, we were given less than even the British or French, only being outdone by the Italians in the sheer contempt Gaijin held for additions to the tree.

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