Looks gorgeous.
I believe I’ve managed to get some more specifics on this abomination/beauty:
Mass: 31 tons
Length: 7.8 m
Width: 3.5 m
Height: 2.4 m
Crew: 3 (driver, gunner, commander)
Armor: same Tariq (Jordanian modified centurion hull armor) ki, same BMP2 turret armor
Main armament: 30 mm KBA-2 autocannon, has the option to use ATGM launcher
Secondary armament: 30 mm AGS-17 automatic grenade launcher, 1 × 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun
Engine: 5TDF two-stroke opposed 5-cylinder diesel engine developing 700 horsepower, 6TD-1 two-stroke flat 6-cylinder diesel engine developing 1,000 horsepower
I’m unable to find the top speed and what atgms in particular it could fire. The only thing about either came from a reddit post with some non functioning links unfortunately.
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One of my favorites, BTR-4A with the GROM combat module. The color scheme is is awesome.
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It is not captured, the photos are from a russian side. Also there was first T-80UD spotted from the russian side
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I feel a bit crazy seeing all the people seriously discuss the idea of Ukrainian vehicles being added, like really? Gaijin will NEVER do this and we all know why…
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What are you talking about, they definitely will be added at some point. It’s just a matter of where. The most realistic options are:
- Part of an Eastern European Nation Tree with Poland as the Main Nation (Leaked in a long-term roadmap as an option. Other possibilities of this leak were: China/DPRK, USA/ROK, Russia/Iran).
- Inputted into the USSR Tree (with the conflict going, probably not happening for a long time if ever).
The tree is just a way to lay it down all the vehicle options available, more informative. It is possible it could come as an independent tree but not likely unfortunately.
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Knowing the huge Russian playerbase and origin of this game, the only realistic scenario i can think of if capitulation happens and so the vehicles can be added to the USSR/Russia tech tree, which is also not very likely to happen because of how much drama that would cause with the equally huge western playerbase
- The old leak list roadmap.
I disagree that that’s the only way. This could definitely work and not burn the house down. Maybe the part with Yugo nation’s being part of it, that would likely be an independent firestorm lol.
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Its still a “leak” after all, and im pretty sure a leak discussed Ukrainian vehicles before the situation happened, so could be remnants of cancelled plans. If Ukrainian stuff eventually comes, let’s just say its going to be interesting to see the Russian Dev server stream chat lol
This was last year, Q4. Pretty new leak but things can change as it was a roadmap leak.
Honestly, whether English or Russian dev steam, the chat is always a **** storm of “I want this! BIAS!” etc. so it would likely be nothing too out of the normal.
As for the pre-conflict leak, it wasn’t a leak. It was the release of user-made vehicles by @DanPogan that people really wanted and which people kept twisting it into a “leak”.
BM Oplot
T-84-120 ‘Yatagan’
BTR-4E
DanPogan’s link:
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I would honestly want this tech tree because it would be undoubtedly the most powerful in the game at top tier and it would be funny going from Russian bias to Ukrainian bias.
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I think currently it would be just about the best with what we have in-game but once the latest versions of the Abrams, T-90M, Leopard 2A7A1, etc. it would compete very well.
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And suddenly the English speaking Forum is going to love Gaijin lol/s
Just thinking about the theoretical lineup makes me excited.
BM Oplot, Yatagan, Strv 122V, Pantsir, and F-16. The more crew slots you get, the more insane it gets.
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Kind of. Pantsir-S1 wouldn’t be the most viable addition since only like one or two were utilized as well as the several MBT from various nations would need a way to be tamed down and placed into event status, etc.
The most likely top MBT to be added to the main tree would be the Leopard 2A4V and Leopard 2A6V, with the Challenger 2 and maybe the Strv 122(V) being event vehicles, and the M1A1 SA-UKR being a Squadron/Premium/Event vehicle.
The likely best Ukrainian tank is probably the T-84-120 Yatagan w/ DM53 APFSDS-T followed closely by the BM Oplot w/ 3BM42 APFSDS-T (or some type of round placeholder).
The F-16AM MLU, and Mirage 2000-5F would be the nation’s top aircraft at this current time. The MiG-29MU2 would be close behind with its R-27ER1’s, Gran IR missiles, and new RADAR modifications.
Can’t let the foreign vehicles overshadow the unique and highly capable in there own right Ukrainian-made vehicles.
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Another attractive part of Ukraine in-game would be all the light vehicles to use alongside those MBTs. The BTRs, BMPs, and things like the BMPT Strazh would be excellent compliments to MBTs, and help create some good lineups!
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Oh yeah the BMPT Strazh would be a beast. Extremely vulnerable to HE via its unmanned combat module (would be like similar to the in-game QN506) but the hull is layered in Nizh-1M ERA which is superior to Kontact-5. Plus the 4x RK-2S tandem-HEAT missiles that have 800mm of penetration behind ERA, dual 30mm ZTM-2 autocannons, 2x KT-7.62mm machine guns, and a 30mm KBA-117 grenade launcher, its going to lob rounds down range. Granted its best round is 3UBR8 APDS, it still will melt vehicles and combat modules away.
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it wont be anything special, its just USSR 2.0 with a lot of copy paste vehicles and lack of any WW2-WW1 related stuff that isnt just straight up copying T-34’s and BTR’s.
as i said earlier, this “tech tree” is not viable unless you want another boring TT with the same 4 tanks with small changes.
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Everyone has there opinion, which is fine. A strong majority of people disagree with your stance and do see the tree beyond “copy and paste”.
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so far the entire thread just shows barely modified or lend lease stuff, i can say that the only original tank here worth adding is the T-84 oplot as a premium or event but thats it, adding this TT will destabilize the balance again just like what happened with israel.
if this had more native or heavily modified vehicles that could be considered another whole vehicle then it would be considered a while ago.