I wonder what the odds are of Ukraine building a new main battle tank-model from scratch? They’ve got plenty of IFV’s, TD’s, Mortar, AD, etc. vehicles being either modified or produced.
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I think the chances are zero in the near future. I think about 15+years before any theoretical new MBT will be produced “en masse”
Just because of economical situation Ukraine on its own is unable to start development at the moment. A few prototypes based on the current chassis (i.e. T-64 or T-80) maybe, but not a full scale production of something entirely new
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wait. so there really was a t-34 used?
Yes
did they have ammo for it?
I would grind the tech tree instantly with very advance weapon from both East and West
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- Chadian BMP-1U ‘Shkval’ in an army Depot.
- While the BMP-1U isn’t really used by the Ukrainian Army anymore and they only had a few of them, the vehicle and remote Shkval combat module is utilized in several other countries. This variant does not have a thermal imager, it does offset the hindrance through the use of the ZTM-1 30mm autocannon (w/ likely 3UBR8 APDS rounds), KT-7.62mm coaxial machine gun, KBA-117 30mm grenade launcher, and 2x 9M113 Konkurs anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM).
- Later, the Shkval combat module would be upgraded to the Shkval-A standard which received the KLW-1 Thermal Camera, and the ability to utilize the Barrier-212 ATGM system with the RK-2S (tandem-HEAT 800mm of penetration) and RK-2OF missiles. This variant has been known as the BMP-1M or the BMP-1U.
- The difference between the Shkval-A (Top) and early Shkval (Bottom) combat modules.
- BMP-1U with the Shkval-A combat module.
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More images of the advanced T-72EA that features more armor protection. The images have another T-72EA evacuating the damaged first one:
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I dont know but i think they had the same ammo of T34-85
I mean tbh I am truly clueless on Ukrainian, Belarusian and Baltic ground forces, but while I do understand the mass amount Ukraine has made let’s be honest, it’s not like it’ll have much of a different play style to the USSR tree, so I think rather than adding a whole new tree (that let’s be honest would be boring to grind through because it’s technically a USSR copy and paste with a few differences) I think if we add it as a new tech tree inside the USSR tree with I dunno 3 extra lines then we could potentially add, and it’ll give a better top tier lineup for the USSR so it can have more than 3 ground vehicles that are viable at 12.0; while France gets Benilux, Germany gets Switzerland, Britain gets India and Canada and ect.
I’d be careful with this thinking, just because it looks like a T-series doesn’t mean it’s the same. It would be like comparing the Iranian Zulfiqar-3 to the American Abrams in looks-wise:
For someone with an untrained eye or who has no experience with military vehicles, they could say the vehicles are the same.
Anyways, many Ukrainian tanks and vehicles have drastic changes that distance itself significantly from its Soviet legacy. An example of this would be the 120mm armed T-72-120 or Yatagan Tanks, turret bustle autoloaders, the automatic transmissions that allow high speeds in forward and reverse with high power ratios, indigenous missile systems, Western-style BTR’s (front mounted engines), unmanned turrets with every weapon you can throw on it I.e. grenade launchers, 30mm cannons, ATGM’s and more, custom ERA, even custom hard-kill APS (that’s in wide use in the Turkish Army) and more.
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there are way too many unique vehicles for a sub tree to make sense
also its not like the examples you mentioned where many of the vehicles in the subtree are imported from other countries.
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I dunno, that makes sense, i understand your point of view and I’ll keep that in mind; but I guess we’ll have to wait and see what Gaijin does.
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Good point, but tbh I have no clue; y’know how confusing countries can get with their tanks and stuff, so I’ll keep what you’ve said in mind, but for now I guess we just need to wait for Gaijin to think of something i guess
🇺🇦 2S6M Tunguska - Modified
- This 2S6M features an updated EO/IR sight with thermal camera and laser rangefinder capabilities for improved tracking of contacts, especially at night. This vehicle is part of the 1020th OZRP.
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An interesting modification of the T-64B1VK is the transporter rubber sheets on top of the ERA on the turret to protect against dropped charges and FPV.
Also ERA on the hull and turret seems to be mostly Nizh, judging by the shape of modules.
Source : Shawshank Redemption
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Where did you get them without blur?
Plot twist: He’s the photographer. Would be funny if true.