Congratulations?
Now do it in the Su-34, F-15E or Rafale. It will be easier and quicker in those 3 aircraft
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Its identical
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oh trust me i already did but its much easier in typhoon
I don’t know about this people say it identical maybe because brimstone firing from fast flying jet while hellfire firing from helicopters? That make brimstone look like it work better?
If for ground RB i choose Rafael
After release all the hammer i can continue doing CAP and MICA really work wonder on ground RB map maybe due to size that smaller than air RB which mean most of the times enemy are already in MICA range
Yeah will be, MICA are the best ARH when the range is less than about 20-30km. Which is basically the size of the largest GRB maps going from edge to edge. Combine with AESA to instantly find targets compared to the aweful radar in the Typhoon… You can just control the air with ease.
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Brimstone 2s would allow for different longer range gameplay (as well as being a general upgrade, its faster right?). But brimstone 1s can deal with spaas fine already and work very well in the current playstyle of close in rampages - which btw is incredibly annoying to face I got killed 3 times in a row by an EF-2000 like this.
Yes, it likely would be when used at the same ranges of the Brimstone 1.
This has never been used to prevent any other nation(s) from getting major upgrades over their existing loadout. It could be argued that the Su-25SM3 was more than a match for any SPAA already and yet the soviets got the Su-34. The F-15E did not need AGM-130s, AGM-65s were already good enough, but it got them. Most aircraft did not need GBU-38s as many already had convential GPS guided bombs, and yet they were added.
No other aircraft has a weapon system it literally never equipped except the Typhoon. The bare minimum normally is that the aircraft needs to have equipped at one point or another otherwise it cannot be added to that airframe. This is why the Italian and German Tornados didnt get PGMs or why the Hunter F6 does get access to Aim-9. Etc etc.
and yet here we have the Typhoon, restricted to a much weaker version of its only AGM for the sake of “balance”. It would be akin to the Su-34 only gaining access to KH-29s or the F-16/F-15 only having AGM-65As. It simply isnt done anywhere else.
and I get killed many times in a row by Su-34s or Rafales. Again, neither are limited in anyway and yet the Typhoon has 2 MAJOR nerfs for its only AGM.
- its missing FnF
- Its a much earlier variant that is a lot weaker.
and we are forgetting the elephant in the room as well. Ground is not the ONLY gamemode. Brimstone 1s are simply too bad to ever use inside ARB or ASB. Brimstone 2s, even artifically limited to SAL, would actually be far more usable and may actually be worth running
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There has been quite a bit of hysteria stemming from this. Wild how this is even a discussion lol.
Thank god someone else realizes this. Very tiring trying to get people to understand this. It’s very simple.
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This was the same player unlike multiple different cas is the difference, it was a small lobby and despite there only being one cas in the sky I was still getting smashed by it.
And? Why is this any different to any other aircraft?
I got 3 kills on the same person in the space of about 2 minutes in the Jaguar IS in GSB the other day. Is that OP?
an uncontested CAS, in any airframe, will get loads of kills. The Typhoon is not special in this regard. It doesnt even carry the most A2G weapons, that is the F-15E
My experience with other cas is they rearm and give you a bit of a break
and? Su-34 and Rafale can delete half your team in a seconds with little time to react or defend. A Typhoon can take out only 1 at a time and unlike both of them, both smoke and ERA are effective (heck, doesnt even need that, I had a Brimstone impact a tanks barrel and it barely destroyed just the barrel), as soon as you know there is a Typhoon up, you can act accordingly. An F-15E could take out 11x players in a row which is not far off the Typhoon. 20 if they were stationary
If a Typhoon is being allowed to make 18 consecutive runs accross the battlefield, well within range of any SPAA and highly vulnerable to any CAP, then that is your teams problem.
But i still dont see why this is justification for 2x MASSIVE nerfs to the Typhoons performance, every single day there is a new complaint about the Su-34. The only time I see people complaining about Typhoon is when people are trying to deny the Typhoon its historical loadout.
Doing the quick and dirty maths here. If a Typhoon takes 30 seconds to locate an enemy, set up a shot, fire a Brimstone, guide it onto target and then withdraw to relative safety before setting up another shot. Then to go through all 18x Brimstones (which they may not be running) that will take around 9 minutes.
It will not take 9 minutes for a Rafale or Su-34 to land, rearm and take-off again to fire another salvo, that at most takes about a minute, maybe 2 on most maps. I would still argue that in a 10 minute window, the Rafale and Su-34 will both fire off as many and likely kill more players in the same time inveral, yes it will be in burst not sustained, but that has never been an issue in the past when others have had the quantity advantage (looking at Su-39s having 16 VIkhrs vs say a Harrier Gr7 having 4x AGM-65s, heck historically the Typhoon nations have been woefully nerfed with the Tornado IDS vs F-16 for example)
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Maybe it tells something if “the entire community” disagrees with you…
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Brimstone 2 will out range every spaa in the game even with SAL it unbalanced
Looking at su-34
Yep brimstone 2 definitely unbalanced lol
I also noticed Rafales super deadly with Micas, these are simply op within typical engagement ranges. The small air rb arenas make it horribly imbalanced. Especially sinde Rafale has solid F&F ordnance as well. My EF2000 is just bad vs ground and not that well against air threats. Aim120, the meh radar, just laser guided ground weapons…tragic. Makes me sad that other nations always have all the nice toys. Whats they had in mind with giving this mad radar + Micas to Rafales? They butcher everything with no efford. What they had in mind with giving good F&F AGMs to every nation, except for the EF2000 operators? Why can everyone shot’n’forget in quick succession, while EF players require laser locks to the end? How is it even supposed to work ? Holding long time locks while SAMs and enemy CAP is all around?
Tbh, even when air rb maps are alot bigger. In most matches fighting distances are withing Mica range as well. Long range jousts are pretty much rare.
When russian ordnance outrange Nato SPAAs by factor 2 or 4…well thats balanced actually^^
So if one side gets majority on them, that justifies their point ? Hmm…
So Abrams and tiger 1 suffers
By your own words
vs yourself, then yes.
Your proof that those are the majority opinions in this community?
Loud minority and actual majority are vastly different things.