Type 94 Truck (Type 41) - Literally Out Of Ideas

I remembered a suggestion for the Ho-i prototype equipped with the Type 41 7.5cm gun,.

This suggestion was never passed for consideration btw so if anyone wants to remake it here is a reminder.

There are specifications for the ammunition being talked in that thread.

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I am aware of this suggestion and it’s ammunition discussion. Just goes to show that sources regarding Japanese weapons are almost always conflicting. Pretty much everywhere I look lists a different muzzle velocity for the Type 41. I did think that the 510m/s velocity reported by the US was a bit optimistic but ultimately went with that since it was reported by the United States Intelligence Division and it showed the best case scenario for this vehicle’s in-game performance. I’ll clarify this in the previous reply.

That being said, a velocity of 510m/s would actually make the Type 41 better than the Type 99 present on the Ho-I, which is a bit strange. Though that could be because the velocity reported by the US was of the HE round, with the APHE rounds having velocities of closer to 430~m/s. It’s also just possible that the Type 99’s in-game velocity is incorrect.

If we plug 430m/s into Gaijin’s calculator, still using shell details from TM 9-1985-5, we get the following:

Type 95 APHE: 40.21mm

and

Type 1 APHE: 54.97mm

Much worse but still absolutely workable at 1.0. Of course, the Type 2 HEAT’s penetration will remain at 90mm and should act as this vehicle’s top round.

Just dont hit the pedals too hard. no kidding

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Wow. That’s definitely a truck we both a gun in the bed. Looks awful. But I suppose you could probably knock the sides of the bed off or let them down if they’re on a hinge Idk.

This would probably only work if the crew could rotate the gun carriage in the bed. Kinda like how you can move AT guns in Enlisted. If the gun can move then it should be fine. If it’ll be unable to at least fire to the sides then this is just Archer at home. Butt-truck.

But either way I’ll suffer through it. +1.

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Extremely goofy and would probably suck in-game. In which case it gets a massive +1 from me!

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Same truck, same gun, but a Manchukuo army vehicle; perhaps for China.
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It’s possible but the cab looks too different to be a Type 94, imo. Most notably, the roof appears to be much more rounded and the sidewall is missing the additional window often seen on Type 94s. The vertical railings are also different with the Type 94’s being square all the way up whereas the truck in this picture appears to transition into circular ones. The bed also just appears to be too short to be a Type 94. The crew seems more packed onto the bed than the the image seen on the suggestion (though that could be due to the angle) so I suspect the truck in the picture is actually a shorter 4-wheeled truck instead of a 6-wheeled Type 94.

Really no way to tell for certain unless we can get a more full version of this picture, if there even is one, or another picture from a different angle.

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Good eye, I’m not usually the best with trucks at this close a perspective. With that in mind, I’ll place my bet on a Nissan truck, possibly the 80/180. Also note the beginnings of another gun shield in the bottom right of the image, which suggests that a second portee was constructed.

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Yep. Japan presumably made a good number of portee vehicles so it wouldn’t be at all unreasonable to see a few in the hands of the Manchukuo army. Here are three others that I’ve come across in my internet escapades. The answer is very likely out there somewhere either on the internet or some old photo album. (I’m not actually certain the top one is Japanese since the gun looks like an Italian Cannone da 75/27 Mod. 1906 but I recall finding it with the others. Can’t remember where I found them though.)

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Huh, I had only seen the second one, but it makes sense that more would be created in the absence of proper artillery vehicles. As for the first one, the pattern of the wheel rims on the truck screams Japanese to me, although I can’t identify the gun. I guess it is possible to be a Type 38 75mm gun, or maybe even a captured Chinese weapon.

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Possibly another SPG, although I am not sure if the gun is facing rearward or not.
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Apparently this is a cropped version of an image taken at a Soviet exhibition of Japanese weapons captured after the battle of Khalkhin Gol. I happened across the full image hence this post.
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There are a few more photos that include this vehicle.

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Most important for our purposes, however, is one taken at the very rear.
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In the top right corner we can see one of the deployed legs of the cannon in the truck bed, which seems to imply that it is facing forward and thus not indicative of a makeshift portee.

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Now that’s what I call a reserve TD.

+1 absolute piece of crap.

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Reminds me of the
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So-To Gun Carrier.
That’s a 37mm. However, a 47mm could be carried later in the war.

I’m guessing the Japanese likely did the same thing with the Type-94 Truck(Type-41)

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This is real?!?!

Yes. It’s meant only to transport the Anti-Tank guns, but considering that this vehicle could mount the legs onto it. You could likely use it as an anti-tank platform if necessary.

Yep. I have a draft suggestion for it in my personal Drive, however, I wanted to find the source of a specific page of a book that has a line-drawing of the So-To before posting. I couldn’t find it and eventually just shelved it until I had more time to look.

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This drawing is included on page 149 of Japanese Tanks (日本の戦車, 1978).

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Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

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Budget archer but for Japan is certainly a vehicle I never thought would exist. +1

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