So lets say you add this 70 year old missle and give it a radar. Great Cas already flys in at ground level of very high or can go around to attack from different angles on the map. They already do this in ground.
It’s mixed battles not ground RB but I digress. CAS sells premiums, players buy CAS aircraft to use in RB they buy premium/squadron light tanks spawn these helis and aircraft.
RB is designed as much for aircraft as it is for tanks
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Is air RB mixed ? No So why is ground RB mixed then ?
Destruction range: 15m
Accuracy: 20 feet (6 meters)
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Which is WHY THEY HAVE AIR Rb where you cant spawn in a pantsir can you
Because we would love to have an EC mode with ground, air and Naval but Gaijin wont put the work in.
We also want period specific battles but Gaijin wont do that either.
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And you cant use a ground attack aircraft in team death match air battles.
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GROUND RB should be ground just as much as air is wait for it air. If you want a mixed RB fine. But dont pretend that air has to or is even truly mixed like ground has to be
Im fairly certain you can use anything in air that flys even ground you will lose but you can at least from what I know use it because I take my a7k to air rb
I appreciate your views but Gaijin will not remove aircraft from mixed battles and if SAMs like these stop players spawning aircraft Gaijin will nerf them because there is not a single premium ground vehicle that is $90 but there is a $90 dollar aircraft.
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And you bomb a base and die, I fly Tornado in air RB and you die. But Tornado in ground battles can be fun.
every radar without pd has massive ground clutter
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Which is why gaijin is killing ground rb which I argue shouldnt be mixed or should have a cap on jets being only able to use 3rd generation or lower. But you are right gaijins greed has caused groound rb meta to be broken
It can be fun for you to play but you do realize people who want to play ground in ground rb might not see it as fun ?
this is not true
there are many radars that filter it out much better than the an/apq 120
even the mig-21 radar performs better in game considering ground clutter
Well we knew we would get to this point. Other games balanced aircraft by limiting payload options, or guidance laser guided/TV guided requiring pilot to guide them in.
But no Gaijin first allowed helicopters with 12+ missiles to destroy teams and now we have mach 2 capable aircraft doing the same thing.
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Your missing the issue here and arguing for the wrong thing.
If gaijin adds the S-75 or anything equivalent it will do 2 things, it will make helicopters all but dead bar the ones flinging IR missiles which unless those S-75 sites lock onto the spikes then these can be insta wiped for literally zero effort (do it all the time with helicopters in my QN or Nemar)
What gaijin need to do and this event shows its possible is have varying “zones” for SAMs to linger about in, but instead of AI SAMs, its the player in ito/pantsir/tor/hq etc. these may get wiped out but but ironically just like the event has proven, without a pod or any markers people flat out have zero awareness on visual acquisition of targets.
So we can do a few things to solve this, the “zone” is like we currently see in the event (red circle) but there are several scattered about the map beyond the GRB boundary, CAS now will have to visually acquire and engage them if they want any chance of touching GRB especially if they move the spawn locations further back to prevent long range weapons just being insta deployed.
Yes players will eventually learn general locations but its still forcing CAS to engage an area of the map with ground munitions that ISNT tanks or the GRB map unless everyone has been despawned on SAM/SPAA vehicles.
yeah and I really dont want to have to bring my own top jet to ground so i can have air 2 air combat in the ground rb. If I wanted that I would be in air rb lol
Yeah but the problem with this is that out of all those spaas you just list only the panstir is the biggest and most capable threat. The others while they can be a threat lag behind the panstir. And the panstir is already having problems with killing the latest air to be added. Now this also shows that several nations COUGH JAPAN italy and Israel do not have any system that you yourself would consider to be in line to make them spawn at these mobile outside of the ground rb map. And for helicopters being instant killed by an s-75 I just dont care as I have watched Helicopters from their own spawn kill my type 81 and all i can do is stare at them menacingly as they lob a missle outside of my lock up range at me. Yeah helicopters and jets should struggle alot more in ground then ground has to.
Asymmetrical battles my beloved
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