新版本更新 — 未核实谣言和讨论吹水贴

我直接在这里发了:

Yes — I do know we shouldn’t discuss politics in the forums, so I will state things cautiously and only introduce objective phenomena: why the future implied by this rumor offends and unsettles Chinese players (in fact many people are very angry about this now) and why, when implemented, War Thunder would lose a large number of Chinese players.

Quick reminders:

  1. Who am I? I’m one of the mods of the War Thunder Tieba (Chinese forum). What I want to present objectively is the response and opinions from the Chinese player community and the Chinese market.

  2. Please keep replies in this thread restrained and calm — don’t slip into geopolitics, complaints, or accusations. Moderators: please be merciful when you remove extreme posts, but please do not lock this thread — it is also useful feedback for the developers.

(Below is supplementary information for devs and for players unfamiliar with the East Asian situation; I will use as objective language as possible to describe observable facts.)

1.The rumor suggests giving the VT-4 to the Japanese tech tree. Whether or Not at the time of the next Majour Update, would be a terrible decision.

Every year War Thunder runs a Victory Day sale in May, and in September distributes V-J Day victory decals.

Many people unfamiliar with the regional sensitivities may think the past is the past and that the VT-4 is a modern vehicle so it doesn’t matter, but unlike Western Europe (which after WWII pursued reconciliation and formed organizations like the EU), relations in East Asia have not been smoothed over.

The timing of the next patch coincides with China’s once-in-a-decade large V-J Day military parade; this is an extremely sensitive time, and introducing such a vehicle at this moment would be very inappropriate. But even after clarification of introducing them another day would be inappropriate also.

In fact, I believe some devs are aware of this sensitivity — there was a dev blog comment assuring that China-produced vehicles would not be placed in the Japanese tech tree.

Promice of No Chinese Vehicle in Japan TT

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Also, the fact that the Japanese tech tree’s flag differs in the Korean and Chinese clients supports my conclusion. And of the acknowledge of sensitivity by the devs.

flags in different clients

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2.Chinese players are actually very satisfied with many marketing activities in China: recently we received the cute loong-girl body pillow, and on Chinese video sites like Bilibili there are many War Thunder recommendations from influencers with multi-millions of followers — it’s clear Gaijin has invested a lot in marketing in China.

Part of Co-influencers Promotion Vids of WT

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But Chinese players feel great unease and distrust about the future suggested by this rumor; many people feel offended, especially given the sensitive timing.

Many players are not proficient in English, so although the international forums might seem calm, the Chinese forums are full of complaints and dissatisfaction about this.

On Tieba and on Hey Box (Gaijin’s Chinese sales partner):

They’re way too offensive and angry so I’m not going to translate them…
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There’re endless pages and pages of these threads with more posts inside it bursted just in 1 hour and given the fact that we’ve deleted some that went way to far…

Even if players love this game, As a currently a very popular and high-profile military game in China, War Thunder’s introducing something like this at such a sensitive point would cause many potential Chinese players to develop strong resentment and rejection. And many influencers will criticize it.

I’m not trying to be alarmist, but just consult any Chinese employee or volunteer or moderator, you will get the same answer:
This would greatly damage Gaijin’s and War Thunder’s reputation in China, and would cause trouble to the influencers who promote War Thunder, War Thunder streamers (video or live), partner platforms like Hey Box and UU Gaming VPN (yes, the “UU girl” is UU ’s mascot), and even other games Gaijin has cooperated Chinese servers such as Enlisted and Crossout.

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已确认台湾的F-16A MLU会拿到AMRAAM,但我很好奇他们会不会也获得AIM-9M和Paveway、LANTIRN之类的空对地武器

他们的F-16A MLU本质上和使用F-100发动机的F-16C没多大区别

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k2我可老想要了,土耳其加强版也一块发!

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老哥你可以专门开个贴子发这些让更多人看见的

开不了,管理员让在这个吹水贴下面发

支持

我发过一个类似的帖子然后被管理员光速删除😓

1.是会把vt4做成礼包载具或者联队载具或者活动载具加入日系吗?毕竟这样也不算在科技树上。
2.只是下个版本不把vt4拿给日本还是以后也不会给?

不仅针对这件事,希望官方要明白玩家的态度。不要尝试做任何伤害中国玩家的情感的事,这是有代价的。

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根据1080p的这个回复,他只是说下版本不会把vt4发给日系。那下下版本呢?下下下版本呢?我们要一直卡在这个问题上吗?请官方明确态度

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我们不希望在任何情况下看到中国的载具出现在日系中

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中文玩家们,毛子是觉得这个版本加入,我们反应大了,才决定收回的,毕竟匈牙利人的拆包向来很准。
而且他们明牌了:
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翻译: 问:是以后都不加了,还是这个版本不加?
答:这个帖子只讨论这个版本的事情。

这难道不是妥妥的王顾左右而言他吗?

这次不加,下次呢?但是下次我们能组织起这么多的人吗?

答案是不能,因为再而衰三而竭, 我们会麻掉,这就是缓兵之计。

乘胜追击,我需要各位的帮助:

这里是我根据斯通纳的指导,发在了鼓吹给泰国发VT4的始作俑者的讨论帖的47-49楼,我也会去贴吧摇吧U们过来
Hope Japan adds t84 and vt4 - Machinery of War Discussion / Ground Vehicle - War Thunder — official forum
如果你英文不太行,就点个赞,点个小红心表达一下赞同吧
如果你肯百忙之中替中系,替中文玩家说句话,就麻烦在下面跟个I agree 或者其他什么的言之有理的话吧

如果有人说怪话,点点小旗帜举办一下,切不要中他的诡计去攻击,否则就会有人借题发挥锁贴了

谢谢各位了!

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如果只是控制了论坛的言论不解决玩家的实际关切,那样只会让舆论在其他更多的地方爆发。希望官方好好思考

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我已经咨询完了。
如果VT4,亦或者是其他任何中国载具加入日系,就存在旭日旗及旭日徽标可以贴在中国载具上的可能性,实际上现在就有旭日徽标可以贴在中国载具上的可能性,只不过这种灰色地带不举报就不受理。与日之丸旗不同,旭日旗是被明确认定为日本军国主义标志的,之前就有因为使用旭日旗及旭日徽标被处理的先例。
只要出现将旭日旗/旭日徽标贴中国载具的情况,去举报,就大概率会被受理,不要指望热度过去了再把中国载具加入日系就能避过去。
另外,北方工业等中国公司对战雷中的一部分载具具有相关权利,这也是一个可以利用的点。
请gaijin官方注意自己的行为,我没在开玩笑。

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也就是说中系贴旭日就能举报让他被搞是吧好好好

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这么对中国玩家真的不会被冲爆么?苏联就是这么被斯拉夫人给玩没的吧

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