Top-tier SPAA are too powerfull

good luck getting there in the first place
and if you do
good luck staying there cuz ur turning circle puts you outside it randomly or another pantsir will shoot you down

more than you’d like to know

lol

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FlakRakrat is Powerful Serious??? It can only fire two missile before reload. It doesn’t even have a MG for self-defense. The top tier SPAA mentioned may only mean 2S6 or Pansir S1?? maybe and Tor M1

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merica

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cool, make up bs lines and not actually contribute to the discussion

did i mention an F-16?
none of the nations i play have an F-16 and nothing as manoeuvrable as it, well china does but im still grinding it

and control your language

i know enough to confidently say that all SPAA and all vehicles that i know of have a limited vertical gun elevation.
even the pantsir cant aint 90degrees up, but none of my aircraft can make use of such a small zone of safety

I’ve contributed a LOT to the conversation. I told you exactly how to counter Pantsirs using BASIC MATH, then I showed you my very first two attempts doing such… In which I killed SPAA that was actively trying to combat me.

What else would you be using as CAS when fighting Russia?
Would you really like me to show you me doing the exact same thing in a Tornado IDS?

None of them… Right…
America has the F-16C, F-14B, AV-8B+, and arguably the F-15s if you like GBU-8s.
Germany has the Tornado IDS and F-4F KWS.
Britain has the JAS39C, the Harrier GR.7, and the Tornado GR.1.
Japan has the F-16AJ.
China has the J-10A, JF-17, JH-7, F-16A-20, and even an F-5E if you feel frisky enough.
Italy has the Tornado IDS, AV-8B+, and JAS39.
France has the Mirage 2000-5F, Mirage 4000, Mirage 2000D-R1, F-16A-15, F-16AM-15, Jaguar A, and Jaguar E.
Sweden has the AJ37, AJS37, JAS39A, and JAS39C.
Israel has the F-16A-10, F-16C-40, F-16D-40, Kurnass, Kurnass 2000, F-15A, and F-15C.

By “nations i play”, I assume you mean this
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It simply looks like you play nothing but 1 nation, in which you don’t even have end-line aircraft.

My language was perfectly under control when I wrote that question.
Would you like to answer it?

If by “all of your aircraft” you mean your near-stock Tornado IDS… You absolutely can. Reminder, you have a 4km diameter of safety against the BEST spaa you can possibly face (bar the Tor, which is 84dg) at 6km. If you up that to 10km, you now have 5.4km of safe space.

Seeing as you have limited experience with SPAA… It’s understandable that you’re a bit lost in this scenario.

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to kill pantsirs i usally take a f15 with gbu 8 to 45 k feet and drop bombs on him that way

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Lmafo you have absolutely no idea what your talking about, you have absolutely no experience playing top SPAA even for your only nation… let alone any other. You seem to have the illusion that top tier spaa is facing dumb rockets and bombs in most scenarios… When in reality it’s it’s 15/25km AGMs or guided bombs… Meanwhile it’s only Russia that can engage over 12km… So yeh spaa at top tier is currently massively out ranged in most cases. I’d recommend you actually play Spaa before forming any opinion on it.

actually yeah, please do enlighten me your infallible majesty

cant do much with that when you cant reach there in a damn tornado

apparently the entire german air tree researched doesnt count

yeah… i can see that

funny, i have all but the GBU-24 unlocked and the rest is literally inconsequential

im not egotistic enough to deny that

great, now my turning circle is the same as a damn blimp

i dont have most of the germans as i have the leo 2a5 as my best tank and german mig 23 mla as my best plane im researching the narwahl 262 right now

i have 2A5, 2PL, very close to completing FRR, 2A5PSO, VJTF and only have to purchase the ICE otherwise i have everything at max crew

noice i only went german for the me262 and nd then i wanted a mig 23 so i got the mla and spaded it post nerf

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i would use the mig in GRB but its not really in a good position rn

its not the best ground striker i mostky intercept su 24s and f16c the f16s have bombs so there easy to kiill

you upteir it to 11.7?

thats quite dangerous considering ARH missiles flying around

a very funny idea i had when i was thinking of funny vehicles for ground becuase i like fast wheeled vehicles would be toyata pickup with 105mm recolies rifle

yeah not horrible im mostly useing R24R which is hard to dodge even when lost lock due to data link

actually it has IOG (inertial onboard guidance) rather than DL

oh my bad

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np, btw how many slots u have for air and how many for ground?