Do you ever realize you’re refuting things that isn’t being argued? I never claimed T-90M was the only one.
What F-18s and which F-16s have internal ESM specifically?
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Looks to be all F-18C/Ds & F-18E/Fs, all Typhoons, F-16C Pobit, etc.
ESM also isn’t electronic warfare equipment.
Spall liners need as much research done about them as armor, or any other complex thing.
Needing to know exactly where they are placed.
This is incorrect. None of the aircraft you have listed, have internal ESM. Internal ESM is where you can use the ESM without needing to have the ARM equipped, like how the Su-30SM2 has it.
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Some features are clearly added first to Russian vehicles or some inaccuracies are addressed faster on Russian vehicles.
Example: Bravy the destroyer was the first bluewater ship to have missiles
Iirc, T-90M was the first vehicle with them in the dev server(?), but there was enough fuss about it that other MBTs got them too such that it was no longer the only one with it when the update went live.
Maybe it was just Gajin testing it on one vehicle to start, maybe they were trying to pull a fast one, idk.
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What happens on dev server first is irrelevant.
T-90M is 1 tank, the Leopard 2 series of tanks is over 10 tanks & requires far more work.
It was never going to be only one tank that got it on live, never.
You’re probably right. Even if they didn’t grant it to the NATO counterparts on release, there’d be enough ruckus for them to be added soon after, especially considering how influential spall liners were initially.
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I’m including this other topic into this thread as it is another example of how a feature gets added into the game, stops being expanded to existing vehicles, and is restricted to new vehicles.
So maybe they need to focus on that backlog for a bit. Because the net result would probably be bigger
For example, Britain got 3 aircraft this major update. If they fixed the outstanding reports for the Harrier and Tornado, we’d effectively get 11 new aircraft.
Let alone all those on other TTs.
I think the devs invest too much time in adding new things and then dont spend enough time either A) making sure they are in a good state before being added or B) fixing anything they’ve added previously.
Not a single one of those listed aircraft got ESM
They got AGM-88 which has ESM, but take away AGM-88 (either by not equipping them or by firing them) and it doesnt have ESM anymore.
Let alone the performance difference between ARM based ESM and intergrated ESM.
Typhoon for example should have 360° ESM that updates instantly
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By that argument none of them have ESM, because Flanker’s scope is non-functional without ARMs equipped [dev server 1].
Just cause you can see the scope doesn’t mean it’s functioning.
That and ESM in-game isn’t anywhere close to a notable feature outside of ARM use.
and that is the other side of the coin. Aircraft like the Typhoon should be able to establish a target point via ESM
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Euro does not have internal ESM. You need an AGM-88 to use it, and it only works within the seeker’s FOV, and you lose it once you launch the missile.
Flanker’s ESM works without any ARMs. This allows you to target radars with traditional air to ground munitions much easier, or even just come in for low pass gun run. Super useful in every gamemode where you fight AA
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And the Flanker ESM also works instantly. As opposed to all the NATO planes (including the F-16 which has the HST pod) which need to take 30 seconds to complete a full scan (which isn’t even how these systems work IRL)
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@Macron-Spokesman I think you can also add ejection seats and fuel dumping to the list, it also seems to be mechanics that have been forgotten for the older aircrafts
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ah yess spall liners
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Allow me to add this case, link here
What makes this particularly frustrating is that the XM8 was added in 2021, three years after blow-out panels were added as a mechanic in 2018. It has been 5 years and 5 months since XM8 was added and it has still not gotten it’s blow-out ammo rack modeled. For context this functionality is the entire reason why the internal seperation wall between auto loader and crew exists.
NB: the original report is courtesy of Spookston, but it was on the old forums so I took it upon myself to make a new one. The sources are the same.
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It’s crazy that this keeps happening
Ammo crates
Blowout panels
Detailed helicopter and plane damage models
Dozer blades
ECM and ESM
Ejection seats
Electro optical seekers
Fuel/drop tanks
Fuel Dumping
HMD related stuff
MFD screens
Missile lead indicators
Spall liners
Turret baskets
And now Regenerative Braking
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If you can give specific examples and bug reports that have been waiting for the features then I can add them to the list.