The tragedy of modern armor thread

doesnt that line up pretty well with the real multiplier?

I found 147mm steel total: 66/60 = 1.1, 32/30 = 1.07. 66+50+32 = 148. 196-148 = 48 textolite protection. 48/100 = 0.48x KE

what about composite arrays that also have a KE focus like the Abrams extremely dense DU alloy armor

it’s much more realistic than what we have on Object 292, T-80U series and T-80BVM, yeah

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Not modelled in the game tho’ is it, and so not in the list?

really? isnt there a difference on turret armor for non-DU and DU abrams?

I think Gaijin didn't add DU armor yet:

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My bad, I thought DU packages included hulls too. But Heavy Common has stronger turret than M1A1 indeed (same as M1A2)

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HC/M1A2 have 502mm flat armor on average (on the right cheek as current example). Steel is 1x = 502-(101+38=)139=363mm. 363/800 = 0.45x KE for turret NERA.
M1A1 for example: 335-139= 196/800 = 0.245x KE NERA.

Also, as future M1A1 AIM owner - yay, it has 0.44x turret!

calculating

494-139=355/800 = 0.443x

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Yes, indeed, I calculated using the wrong modifier.

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Hence people found it interesting to see the values of other tanks than Soviet/Russian ones, like Abrams, I think we need to calculate some more:

Leclerc

1x65mm steel , NERA is 500mm, so hull is (can’t be flat, only 14 deg) 555-65=490/500=0.98x KE. On turret it’s… 1x90 steel and supposedly 490-539mm NERA? So either 580 or 629… see below
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Just 540mm in average spot! Turret is weaker than the hull! 450mm for NERA protection. 0.9x or 0.81x, depending on it’s actual thickness.
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Leopard 2A7

1.25x for turret steel, again, as on 2A4. But here we will have different NERA KE, see how!
44+45 = 89mm steel, 585mm NERA, and uh, 80mm composite at 45 degrees = 115mm. Effective thickness = 625-115=510-89=421. 421/585=0.71x turret NERA! But 80mm composite indeed gives great protection. 100mm angled composites are also applied to hull, which is… 89+520 giving 303mm of protection without composite, but with 1.00x 10mm screen. 303-99=204. Depending on thickness, it may be 204/520 = 0.39x KE, or 204/280 = 0.72x KE. Like turret, pretty much!
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Merkava Mk.4

It was tricky, but I found a spot on the turret roof! With 200 mm of NERA and 25mm of steel, you get sad 87mm protection… 62mm from NERA… 0.31x only! Merkava’s turret is sadder than the hull I measured somewhere above…
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wow, its what, like 50-60% better than even DU turret Abrams modifier?

thanks for the comparisons and calculations

Yep, also I think Strv122 family has even more armor, at same angle as Leo2A7 giving from 640 to 720mm. Unsure if turret is actually different, but hull features more armor too, it’s a known thing

Strv122

260-89=171 = 0.74x KE turret NERA

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