The "Silent Killer" Missile - MBDA MICA - Performance and Discussion Thread (WIP)

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MICA has been advertised as Mach 4+, with a primary source at Mach 4.5. Statcard simply states Mach 4. They usually don’t show the entire picture.
I don’t know about the AMRAAM actual top speed personally.

Edit : Mach is dependent on temperature and altitude. Gaijin does take those into account. For temperature, they usually have 3 sets : one temperate, one hot and one cold for all different maps

Edit : that’s also the difference between speed IAS and the true airspeed (which I forgot the name)

713

Isnt it just “TAS” True Air Speed

714

AMRAAM is the most accurate missile in game of the ARH missiles.

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715

yeah that’s what i thought

Well maybe except for the seeker

716

Would anybody be able to test a custom weapon with SLM tuned to mica’s specs. I’d like to see how an actual V-Launch in game performs in terms of speed, it could be a limitation of statshark.

717

Seekers are all copy paste yeah, and the fins don’t produce lift efficiently enough, but that’s about it.

718

I was under the impression gaijin was going to keep all ARH seekers the same for balance… and then the MICA buff happened… So…

But yeah, god knows how you’d find the necessary information to get seeker changes for any of the other ARH

719

Don’t even ask me how they managed to get their hands on the seeker.

The only 2 things i know about it are :

  • It’s called AD4A
  • It’s a J band radar
720

I have reported the beam width btw. It should be slightly better than mica as it stands. AMRAAM has plenty of room for improvements. Kinetic and guidance in game.

721

A/B or C5?

Though as always, we are at the discression of gaijins balance

722

A/B, and maybe by extension C5.

Beam should be ±6°, (and if search patterns are modelled there is a wide search too). Mica is ±7° and amraam/the rest are ±15°. In fact that’s actually wider than the wide search pattern.

723

Its range is also underperforming, both vs non-maneuvering and maneuvering targets.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/i0HIOTuiT0kl
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/FTINp3ILB1Ls

I think its more a case of it having the most declassified docs, and being relatively close to them. Its still wrong in range and seeker. Probs maneuvrability too, seeing as gaijin made the decision to make it turn like a brick, but thats harder to prove.

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724

Nah the non-manoeuvring range is accurate now, that was a duplicate report.

725

Oh they fixed it? The report is still open and bug reporter still says it wasnt fixed as of 2 months ago

726

well last i checked it matches the firing data, only reason it didnt was because customs and software like statshark had a M5.05 limit. This limit isn’t in the full game.

727

Pretty sure amraam received changes since that report no?

728

Yeah i checked things last october.

729

K so rechecked (on SS)
First shot:
Launch Aircraft: 15,000 ft / Mach 0.8
Target Aircraft: 500 ft / Mach 0.76
Expected launch range: 64km
Actual launch range (bug report): 54km
Actual launch range (SS): ~55.5km

Timeout miss, missile peak speed is a touch over M3.0, never close to M5.0 limit you stated, so its irrelevant.

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Shot 2:
Launch Aircraft: 5,000 ft / Mach 0.9
Target Aircraft: 500 ft / Mach 0.9
Expected Launch Range: 57.5 km
Actual launch range (bug report): 52.5km
Actual launch range (SS): ~55.5km

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Atleast according to SS, both test shots from the bug reports are still missing. SS actually seems to claim the ranges are better than they were when tested, possibly due to no netcode missile instability draining energy or a buff I’m not aware of, but afaik, the bug report is still valid and the AIM-120A is still underperforming in range rather substantially.

730

Interesting, i thought these ones were fixed, thanks for the fact check

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731

The M5 limit was because original testing showed amraam severely underperformed at high speed/altitudes.