You would need to nearly double its range via increased altitude and speed, maybe, but that’s not really a feasibke shot to advertise.
It’s possible, but you would require the launch to be at approximately 2000km/h and 12km, oh and that’s with a 120s battery life too. Top speed of Mach 4.2, I haven’t seen any claims much in excess of Mach 4.
Most sources say over Mach 3.5, one claims Mach 4 (I am not certain its primary, but chances are it is). I don’t think I’ve seen higher values
Which works, the top speed for my lower-end energy launch was M3, so the typical top speed is somewhere between Mach 3 and 4.
This works too because MICA-VL isn’t claimed to be Mach 3, its velocity in game would actually only be about Mach 2-2.2
Doubling the altitude yes
speed ? not so much
10-12 km is not unusual at the start of a BVR fight
Here, with the missile we used in the MICA VL thread a while ago (nerfed engine, normal loft, Cx of 1.425, like AMRAAM)
That’s the same as AIM120C-5, bearing in mind both missiles are more or less from the same year (96 for mica, 98 for C5).
Don’t quote me on that, but most batterylife are guesswork in game anyway afaik
@Kishin_SR6 @DirectSupport is there actually a decent source for VL MICA reaching Mach 3? As far as I can see MBDA have never made that claim.
The only source given for a Mach 3 top speed is this document from an Indian think tank, which is secondary at best: https://www.cppr.in/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Rafale-Aircraft–the-Untold-Story–Part-II.pdf
As far as I can see none of the references they provide back up the claim of VL MICA reaching Mach 3. And the fact that they have resorted to referencing a business insider article about the Rafale has me doubtful that they have access to any high quality non-public sources.
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Or… or it can just go up in BR as soon as we get higher BRs, and be replaced at this BR by the Rafale M F.1
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Totally True the game should be at 16.0 by now imo and some BR ranges should be restricted by eras even. WWI and WWII planes shouldn’t be able to face cold war canon jets, cold war canon jets shouldn’t be able to face missile jets and SARH missile only jets shouldn’t be able to face ARH missiles jets.
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i disagree, its strong but the missile itself isnt better than r-77-1, now the rafale+mica package is far deadlier than su30sm + r-77-1.
anyway current problem is:
as we can see here, the MICA Still have a lot of energy left with current game parameters,… but is hard limited, not even by the battery, but by the max-hard cap of 50km. (even if battery is following soon enough)
R-77-1: Approx. 170km from the target at launch, both 12.5km, both aircrafts speed of 540m/s
AIM-120B : Approx. 117km
MICA-EM : Approx. 85km
Yes but mica itself overperforms massively.
This is slightly shrouded by the fact mica basically doesn’t loft, which makes it seem worse than it actually is/could be.
So mirage 2k at the same BR as typhoon FGR4. Rafale F3 at the same BR as F22?
I don’t know, I never played top tier and I don’t know the relative performance of these jets, what I’m saying is just that if the Rafale and MICA EM are that op for 14.0 they should just push it up in BR. Also it also depends a lot which F-22 we’re talking here.
I’m guessing we could match Rafale F.3R against F-22A early and later Rafales (F.4.1 or 4.2, F.5 later…) against later F-22As with 9X and 120D (Increment 3.2 iirc? I don’t remember F-22 increments well)
There is none that I’ve seen for now in terms of primary sources. But it ends up being that the MICA is pretty close to mach 3 if not already capable of Mach 3 vertical launch anyway. Testing shows even when the MICA has to do a hard down-ward turn towards the target rather than keep climbing and accelerating, it manages Mach 2.54. It’s likely it can reach Mach 3 in its current state if the conditions were right (elevated target and etc).
F-22 already could have been for 1-2 updates already, it will be worser than current missile meta, but will have good radar(lacks of HMD tho for air RB) and peak FM&engine
The only thing that would be worse is the lack of HMD
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AIM-120 is terrible missile in game. MICA&R-77-1 are better for game.
also loadout is limited enough(typhoon level)
Is the amraam poorly modeled or does its performance just not work well with the in-game conditions? Because afaik it’s a great missile irl
both. it underperforms, but also doesnt fit game with that easy notching and simplified RWRs
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